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Old 01-15-2020, 11:16 AM   #106
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The actual facts will be in there.
For anyone who wants to do Henry's work for him.
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:17 AM   #107
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It's difficult to discuss the child without revealing your own personal bias.

Kind of like reporting on Burma/Myanmar.
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:31 AM   #108
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or Kyiv vs Kiev

I've grown used to saying they for the gendered pronouns, but it was hard on the wiring.
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:34 PM   #109
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For anyone who wants to do Henry's work for him.
I read the transcript before I posted the link.

No one, however, seems to have bothered to read it before declarin' the site biased and the story as suspect.

That's why I kept askin': is the story wrong?

I knew/know the answer.

Do you?
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:34 PM   #110
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I just skimmed the transcript and the facts are essentially true.

It's a Jerry Springer episode.

The dad feels like he's fighting for a principle, but he's losing his family in the process.
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:35 PM   #111
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Watched two earnest interviews with de-transitioning women in their 20s, and it is terribly sad.

I did not know that: the uterus needs estrogen somehow (I am not a doctor) and f2m are damaging the organ with hormone adjustment. One of the interviews tells the story of an f2m who almost died because the organ failed, five years in, and there was an infection and ... ugh
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:14 PM   #112
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The dad feels like he's fighting for a principle, but he's losing his family in the process.
Seems to me: the dad simply loves his daughter and desperately wants to stop her from injuring herself.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:23 PM   #113
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I think you're right but we don't know if what he's attempting to do is best for her. Brass balls does not equal crystal balls.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:40 PM   #114
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we don't know if what he's attempting to do is best for her.
We know this: if dad were to prevail, his daughter, at the worst, is stymied only till she reaches the age of majority. We also know, based on posts and links in this very thread, if she is allowed to proceed, she may be doin' herself long-term, mebbe irreversible, injury.

In context: what seems best for her is clear.
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Old 01-16-2020, 12:17 AM   #115
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I see your point, and again I agree, but probably at this point the rift is too big to ever bridge.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:10 AM   #116
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I see your point, and again I agree, but probably at this point the rift is too big to ever bridge.
If dad is motivated by love, then I'm thinkin' the rift, as painful as it might be, is not a top priority for him. I imagine he's willin' to suffer separation as long as his daughter is safe (from her own, perhaps transitory, impulses).


Adulthood (legally recognized) is just around the corner for her. It's a shame she can't be persuaded to wait, just a bit.
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:39 PM   #117
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Ask a teen to wait? Good luck with that.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:03 PM   #118
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And, ask a teenage girl if she is comfortable with her body :|
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:51 PM   #119
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Ask a teen to wait? Good luck with that.
I don't ask my 13 year old: I tell him.

'nuff said.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:55 PM   #120
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FYI: the site is 'biased', the piece (and internally-linked pieces), opinion.

https://www.chicksonright.com/blog/2...r-transitions/
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