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[Blueflare]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Yeah. It's good we have a middle-class, middle aged white man to make sure the rest of society can take jokes at their expense.

Yeah. It is.

People get "offended" by ridiculous things. As Stephen Fry says, it has no purpose, it's just a whine. "'I am offended by that', well so fucking what?" Haha, that man is a legend too.

There's a difference between simply making a joke and actually being derogatory or inciting hatred.
I'm not saying Clarkson never crosses a line, sometimes he does, but for the most part he really doesn't. I think we need people like him so that we can have a discussion about where the line is between what it's okay to say and what isn't.

[DanaC]

Yes, people get offended by ridiculous things. But they also get offended by stuff that isn't ridiculous. Tell you the stuff that does offend me, is the anti-poor rhetoric. But that isn't specific to Clarkson, it's a pervasive thing at the moment. I am generally offended by the idea that people in a position of social power feel comfortable in making other people with much less social power the butts of their jokes. It's not really specifically racist, or bigotted humour that worries me, it's the general tone of the stronger in society mocking the weaker and then expecting the weaker to suck it up and have a sense of humour about these things. It's comedy from an unkind place. I don't like it. It makes me feel uncomfortable, because it feels wrong. At a gut level. Not offensive, but just wrong.

I personally am rarely offended by Clarkson. And I think the outcry that regularly goes up when he, as you say, crosses a line is fucking ridiculous. Why? because he's Jeremy fucking Clarkson, that's why. We all know what and who he is. The people who employ him know what and who he is, that's why they employ him. And in fairness to him, the lines he crosses are a damn sight less objectionable than some of what was considered mainstream acceptable a few years ago.

[Sundae]

What makes me scoff is those who are offended by other people being offended.
Political correctness gone mad!!!!! And yes, those exclamation points are justified. Because that's how they think.

Stop being offended being other people's sensibilities, then.
And as an added extra, go watch a few episodes of On the Buses or Love Thy Neighbour. And imagine your daughter or friend being treated like that because of their gender/ race.

During our Queen's reign, America has progressed from a legal citizen with black skin not being allowed to choose where she sat on a bus, to a mixed race man in the Whitehouse. The world doesn't change because people accept bigotry. It changes because people notice it, decide it's wrong, and point it out to other people.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Says the middle-class, middle aged white man :P

Middle class? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[DanaC]

Ahh, I'm forgetting. Middle class means something different over there. Here it means fairly affluent.

[Ibby]

EDIT: whoops misread what was being quoted, sorry, thought we were still talking clarkson.

[classicman]

Middle aged? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

He's WAY OLDER!

[infinite monkey]

Your forgot Middle of the Road. He's really that!

[classicman]

you wish he was in the middle of the road.

[infinite monkey]

You're on a roll today, C-man!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Ahh, I'm forgetting. Middle class means something different over there. Here it means fairly affluent.

Don't worry.... it means the same thing here. If you make less than whatever you think "Middle Class" makes, because so far no one can define "Wealth" or "Rich".

[DanaC]

Middle class also means a cultural designation as well.

I am economically working class, but culturally I straddle working and middle class.


People may not be able to categorically define 'wealth' or 'rich'. But there are some fairly simple measures to define 'deprivation' and 'poor'.

[Trilby]

Semantics.


I am poor. But I describe myself as "living in genteel poverty"
and suddenly I'm Jane Austen.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Don't worry.... it means the same thing here. If you make less than whatever you think "Middle Class" makes, because so far no one can define "Wealth" or "Rich".

You have a wealth of ignorance.

You are poor in spirit.

You have an abundance of meanness (I never thought I could write a paradox that wasn't a paradox, until now).

Your money is just a number in a computer, and it can't buy you love.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by BigV

You have a wealth of ignorance.

You are poor in spirit.

You have an abundance of meanness (I never thought I could write a paradox that wasn't a paradox, until now).

Your money is just a number in a computer, and it can't buy you love.

Bla, bla, bla, and you are an idiot......

You don't get to judge me.

You know little about me and my life.

You are a judgmental narcissist who knows nothing about me but does have a superiority complex.

You have failed again, just as you did in your marriage. I beat you on that one alone.... Your failure in that "love" relationship proves you are a complete failure in the "love" department....