Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 43

glatt · 03-10-2014, 05:15 AM

Remarkable. I can think of only two stores in Arlington that hire teens.

Griff · 03-10-2014, 05:44 AM

I would assume that under-employed adults take a lot of those low-skill jobs now. I see a lot of kids doing basically nothing (Insert pet video game rant here) and other kids are focused on school, sports, and what they perceive as resume builders. ~~I'm not sure what I'd have done if I weren't driving tractors all Summer.~~ Please ignore the previous as that is now an illegal activity.

Clodfobble · 03-10-2014, 06:39 AM

Yeah, I think it's more because adults are taking those crappy jobs right now. Even in 1996-1998, when I was a teen working in food service, my best friend and I were the only teens working in either of the locations we worked in. The other employees were all adults, most with families. One or two were earning extra income at night while they got a late-life degree, but the majority knew they'd be working crap jobs like this for their whole lives, and wanted nothing more than to eventually get to be a manager.

glatt · 03-10-2014, 07:15 AM

It's a disturbing trend.

I want my kids to get jobs when they are in high school. Starting around junior year or so. But I'm not sure they will be able to. Having a crappy minimum wage job is an extremely important learning experience. Where else will they learn what it's like to have a boss who won't take shit from you? "I don't care if you want to go home now. Scrape that gum off the bottom of those chairs, or don't bother coming back."

orthodoc · 03-12-2014, 12:01 AM

I think the best possible job for teens is in agriculture. There's nothing like shoveling shit for months on end, starting daily at 0430, to take the entitled starch out of kids. In addition to shoveling the shit, they get to see the cycle of life from start to end, and how we depend on it. They get to decide if they want to support agribusiness or not; they get to decide what they think about a lot of important issues.

Whether it's beef, chickens, sheep, or horses, I say ship the kids to the country and let them experience where food/life comes from. They'll come back with a new perspective.

Undertoad · 03-12-2014, 08:50 AM

Undertoad · 03-12-2014, 08:56 AM

oh, wait... there's a detail that makes this entire graph and/or chart much less interesting

glatt · 03-12-2014, 09:39 AM

These charts are fascinating. I was about to post that teen one on facebook, but then thought better of it. If I want my kids to get jobs locally, the last thing I need is to raise a discussion with parents of other teens in my neighborhood about how teen jobs are worthwhile, but scarce. Don't need to fuel competition.

Undertoad · 03-21-2014, 12:39 PM

Philadelphia and Toledo win the misery index for snowfall this season. (But shhh there's another storm on the way next week)

glatt · 03-21-2014, 01:29 PM

Interesting chart. I would have preferred to see the increase as a percentage instead of as a real number of inches.

The +36 inches in Caribou sounds like a lot more than the +15 inches in DC,
But Caribou was only 38% more than usual and DC was 98% more than usual.

Of course Philly is still misery center because it's like 216% more than usual.

footfootfoot · 03-21-2014, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoc

I think the best possible job for teens is in agriculture. There's nothing like shoveling shit for months on end, starting daily at 0430, to take the entitled starch out of kids. In addition to shoveling the shit, they get to see the cycle of life from start to end, and how we depend on it. They get to decide if they want to support agribusiness or not; they get to decide what they think about a lot of important issues.

Whether it's beef, chickens, sheep, or horses, I say ship the kids to the country and let them experience where food/life comes from. They'll come back with a new perspective.

I'm not sure teens would make the best ag workers, we'd all starve in about two growing seasons.

Gravdigr · 03-22-2014, 03:55 PM

Plus, how many of today's teenagers would willingly shovel shit?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-22-2014, 05:58 PM

I don't think anyone ever willingly shoveled shit, I know I sure as hell didn't. It was just something that had to be done, came will the territory.

But I think you're underestimating todays teens. Spoiled? Who spoiled them? I think if they had to do unpleasant things they would rise to the occasion, it's not their fault they were raised in an environment where they didn't have to.

Gravdigr · 03-23-2014, 02:00 PM

They're not spoiled, lots of kids smell like that.

Gravdigr · 03-23-2014, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I don't think anyone ever willingly shoveled shit, I know I sure as hell didn't. It was just something that had to be done, came will the territory.

To me, that's doing it willingly. And I did it, too.

03-10-2014, 05:44 AM	#632
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I would assume that under-employed adults take a lot of those low-skill jobs now. I see a lot of kids doing basically nothing (Insert pet video game rant here) and other kids are focused on school, sports, and what they perceive as resume builders. ~~I'm not sure what I'd have done if I weren't driving tractors all Summer.~~ Please ignore the previous as that is now an illegal activity. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-10-2014, 06:39 AM	#633
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Yeah, I think it's more because adults are taking those crappy jobs right now. Even in 1996-1998, when I was a teen working in food service, my best friend and I were the only teens working in either of the locations we worked in. The other employees were all adults, most with families. One or two were earning extra income at night while they got a late-life degree, but the majority knew they'd be working crap jobs like this for their whole lives, and wanted nothing more than to eventually get to be a manager. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-12-2014, 12:01 AM	#635
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	I think the best possible job for teens is in agriculture. There's nothing like shoveling shit for months on end, starting daily at 0430, to take the entitled starch out of kids. In addition to shoveling the shit, they get to see the cycle of life from start to end, and how we depend on it. They get to decide if they want to support agribusiness or not; they get to decide what they think about a lot of important issues. Whether it's beef, chickens, sheep, or horses, I say ship the kids to the country and let them experience where food/life comes from. They'll come back with a new perspective. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

03-22-2014, 03:55 PM	#642
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Plus, how many of today's teenagers would willingly shovel shit? __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-22-2014, 05:58 PM	#643
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I don't think anyone ever willingly shoveled shit, I know I sure as hell didn't. It was just something that had to be done, came will the territory. But I think you're underestimating todays teens. Spoiled? Who spoiled them? I think if they had to do unpleasant things they would rise to the occasion, it's not their fault they were raised in an environment where they didn't have to. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-10-2014, 05:15 AM	#631
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Remarkable. I can think of only two stores in Arlington that hire teens.

03-10-2014, 07:15 AM	#634
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	It's a disturbing trend. I want my kids to get jobs when they are in high school. Starting around junior year or so. But I'm not sure they will be able to. Having a crappy minimum wage job is an extremely important learning experience. Where else will they learn what it's like to have a boss who won't take shit from you? "I don't care if you want to go home now. Scrape that gum off the bottom of those chairs, or don't bother coming back."

03-12-2014, 08:50 AM	#636
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423

03-12-2014, 08:56 AM	#637
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	oh, wait... there's a detail that makes this entire graph and/or chart much less interesting

03-12-2014, 09:39 AM	#638
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	These charts are fascinating. I was about to post that teen one on facebook, but then thought better of it. If I want my kids to get jobs locally, the last thing I need is to raise a discussion with parents of other teens in my neighborhood about how teen jobs are worthwhile, but scarce. Don't need to fuel competition.

03-21-2014, 12:39 PM	#639
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Philadelphia and Toledo win the misery index for snowfall this season. (But shhh there's another storm on the way next week)

03-21-2014, 01:29 PM	#640
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Interesting chart. I would have preferred to see the increase as a percentage instead of as a real number of inches. The +36 inches in Caribou sounds like a lot more than the +15 inches in DC, But Caribou was only 38% more than usual and DC was 98% more than usual. Of course Philly is still misery center because it's like 216% more than usual.

03-23-2014, 02:00 PM	#644
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	They're not spoiled, lots of kids smell like that. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

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