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Old 07-20-2010, 07:26 AM   #46
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More guns will not universally raise or lower violent crime.
If very responsible people ...

On the other hand, if irresponsible people, ...
Agreed. I think that pretty much goes without saying. However, Lets focus on this
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Sorry to hear this happened Sam. Hope she gets better.
and not hijack Sam's thread for a gun debate. Sorry Sam.

Any update?
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:07 AM   #47
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I think it's a great idea to curb the drift!
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:14 AM   #48
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Oh me too! He should try out for moderator!

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Old 07-20-2010, 04:42 PM   #49
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However, Lets focus on this
and not hijack Sam's thread for a gun debate. Sorry Sam.

Any update?
Think nothing of it, Classic. Thread drift is one of the joys of the cellar. It sounds like Brenda will be getting out of the hospital and be able to get around with the use of a walker. Haven't heard if her injuries are permanent or not.

I really, really hope that she will continue to press charges against junior because:

a) He should be punished for this - at the very least locked up on a state ward for the criminally insane for a very long time.

b) The last thing I need is for him to get out of jail and kiss and make up with Mom. The walls of these apartments are thin and I don't want to encounter a stray bullet next time around.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:35 PM   #50
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A person has to be a little mental to try and kill their parents. That's fucked. Hopefully she's all right.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:26 PM   #51
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I think it's a great idea to curb the drift!
Why do you hate America?

Welcome to the Cellar, Getgo.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:28 PM   #52
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Thank you, Bruce.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:39 AM   #53
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Talked to Brenda today and she is very shaken and happy to be alive. She is stunned that her own son would shoot her.

After hearing more of the story, I was surprised that she was surprised. Turns out Brenda's ex-husband was both verbally and physically abusive. He, himself, would sometimes draw a gun and threaten Brenda (he never shot her tho). This went on for 17 years, all the time junior was growing up that was the role model dear old Dad presented him with.

Then to put the icing on the cake, junior suffered a major head injury in a car wreck when he was 16. He is currently on disability because of the lasting effects of this old injury.

Brenda couldn't support him on her salary and wanted him to leave. But he was perfectly happy getting a free air conditioned apartment complete with crunchies, cable TV, internet, and computer games. No way was he gonna leave. He snapped. He'd rather shoot Mom than leave.

Brenda was in surgery for 14 hours! The bullet barely missed her spinal cord but did go through one of her lungs, her kidney, and her liver. She has a very long recovery ahead of her - both emotionally and physically.

I feel so bad that I just minded my own business when I heard the altercation. I could have saved Brenda much grief if only I'd called 911 when I first heard the fight break out. Its so hard to know what the right thing to do is sometimes.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:09 AM   #54
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Don't beat yourself up Sam, it's one of those situations where it's tough to decide. If the row wasn't serious, your neighbor might be pissed at you. Besides they probably wouldn't have got there in time anyway.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:10 AM   #55
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I don't know, Bruce. In this small town the cops can arrive in as little as 5 minutes. I had a gut instinct that something was very wrong, but didn't follow it. Brenda said she screamed for help, but the walls here are not so thin that you can make out words through them. And I was trying not to be a busy body with my ear against the wall.

But I guess you're right. It doesn't help anything to blame myself at this late date.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:36 AM   #56
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Sam, you might have prevented Brenda getting shot by calling the cops or you might not have. Who knows, maybe the cop could have gotten shot as well? You did what you thought was best at the time, and it probably was.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:41 AM   #57
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What they said!

Sometimes I think our minds/bodies instinctively take the right path in those kinds of situation. Only hindsight is 20/20.
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Old 07-21-2010, 04:17 PM   #58
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The Digr household use to have neighbors (somewhat) like these. Loud, fighting, females screaming. We called the cops left and right. Nobody likes the cops at their house, and sure enough they moved pretty soon.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:59 PM   #59
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Sorry to hear you went through that Sam, and for Brenda too.

Remember, guns don't people, people kill people.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:25 PM   #60
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Yeah, knives don't kill people either, apparently.

Sam, neighbors of yours?

from Kentucky.com

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A Mason County woman who was stabbed over the weekend was recovering Tuesday at the University of Kentucky Chandler Hospital.

Mason County Sheriff Patrick Boggs said a relative of Phoebe Coffey, 84, called deputies Saturday morning and asked them to make a welfare check. Boggs said deputies found the woman lying in her driveway about 11:45 a.m. Saturday at her home in Plumville. Coffey was taken to a local hospital before she was transferred to UK Hospital, where she was listed in fair condition Tuesday.

Coffey's son, Larry Coffey, 60, is charged with attempted murder. Larry Coffey is being held at the Mason County jail on a $250,000 cash bond.

Investigators said they think the stabbing occurred Friday night.
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