Learning how to build an electric guitar - Page 9

Gravdigr · 01-04-2019, 12:48 PM

Kinda liking the 'beak' on the headstock. Ya gotta put a bead/rhinestone/googly eye on there.

lumberjim · 01-04-2019, 12:56 PM

Yah, we'll see. That wide part of the finger board will come off tonight, I think. I'll do that by hand with a razor saw. I have to leave enough for the nut to rest on, and I haven't ordered nuts yet. I may have to take the finger board off from the bottom of the groove if it hangs over, and let the nut sit on the neck wood. It's close.

Flint · 01-04-2019, 03:14 PM

Looks like a B.C.Rich headstock. (gallery at link)

Flint · 01-04-2019, 03:37 PM

junglejim, did you see this?
Mutant Bodies & Experimental Electronics: Navigating the Unmapped Territory of Soviet Guitars

lumberjim · 01-04-2019, 05:16 PM

Yes.

Now I need to think about what hardware I'm going to use. Do I go cheap because this is my first attempt, or spend a couple hundred for good stuff because I'll probably be keeping this first one.

Leaning toward the latter.

I need a bridge, pickups, controls and tuners.

Flint · 01-04-2019, 05:30 PM

Get good hardware. You want your first build to sound good, so you're encouraged and feel that it was worth the effort. I think hardware is the difference between "cheap" and "decent" instruments-- mainly I think this because entry-level drums can be converted to mid-level drums by replacing the hardware (and maybe re-cutting the bearing edges).

lumberjim · 01-04-2019, 08:58 PM

I did mostly

920D Fender Strat Wiring Harness Hendrix 60's 3 Way w/Blender Treble Bleed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GP0NS0M..._-WbmCbT71BWS2

Fender American Series Stratocaster Tremolo Bridge Assembly - Chrome https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KZE8G..._FXbmCbRE5CC5H

Gotoh Magnum Lock-Trad 6-In-Line Guitar Tuners, Chrome https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077K6PD8H..._6XbmCb8E3845V

The pick ups I went kind of cheap.

Set of Wilkinson HOT Single Coil Pickups for Strat

Guitar White MWVS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015Y1TOO2..._TYbmCbQ9JJA7M

I can upgrade them easily enough later if need be

xoxoxoBruce · 01-04-2019, 11:41 PM

I second the good stuff, you know you'll never let this one go except maybe to your son. Wouldn't you want your son to have the best?

Griff · 01-05-2019, 08:33 AM

I can't wait to see/hear the finished product. Super cool build project man.

lumberjim · 01-05-2019, 02:27 PM

thanks, It's fun and a little scary. I guess that's part of the fun.

I was re-watching a crimson guitars build to prepare for routing out the neck pocket and body cavities, and found something I did wrong on the finger board glue up. I should have used a clamping caul to disperse the pressure to the edges of the neck.

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He used a 2x4 that he had carved a radius and hollowed center. If I had done that, I think I wouldn't have had the gaps at the edges where the glue sucked up inside. Hopefully the bond holds as is, but next time.... I'll remember to do that.

lumberjim · 01-05-2019, 02:34 PM

he also used locating pins to prevent the fingerboard sliding around. He went through the fret slots to put them in, but I was too scared to mung mine up, so I was just super slow and careful to make sure mine didn't move.
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here's the gluing up that I didn't photograph:

lumberjim · 01-06-2019, 01:08 PM

I did a bit more neck shaping this morning. Also cut the end of the fret board off.

There were similar gaps at the end to what I had on the side, so I did the same sawdust and super glue cure.

The shaping I did was mostly to make the heel of the neck level and flat. That led to taking the whole neck down about 1/8".

It fits the template very snugly

lumberjim · 01-06-2019, 01:13 PM

I'll use the template and Router to clean up the edges and bottom, but I took most of the material out with a forstner bit on the drill press. I want it 21mm deep so the the surface of the body comes up under the over hang of the fret board. To get close, I set the depth stop to 15mm from contact.

Result

Then went back with a smaller forstner bit and took another 4 mm or so, got closer to the corners.

lumberjim · 01-06-2019, 01:15 PM

There is playoff football to watch, left over dinner to eat and a nap to take. I'll try to get the routing done after the Eagles beat the Bears.

I'm getting excited.

Gravdigr · 01-06-2019, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

...after the Eagles beat the Bears.

Whoa, easy there. I'm a Bears man, and I'm delicate.

I'm expecting the same thing, really, but, I ain't gotta like it!

01-04-2019, 12:48 PM	#121
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01-04-2019, 12:56 PM	#122
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Yah, we'll see. That wide part of the finger board will come off tonight, I think. I'll do that by hand with a razor saw. I have to leave enough for the nut to rest on, and I haven't ordered nuts yet. I may have to take the finger board off from the bottom of the groove if it hangs over, and let the nut sit on the neck wood. It's close. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-04-2019, 03:14 PM	#123
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Looks like a B.C.Rich headstock. (gallery at link) Attached Images __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-04-2019, 03:37 PM	#124
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	junglejim, did you see this? Mutant Bodies & Experimental Electronics: Navigating the Unmapped Territory of Soviet Guitars __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-04-2019, 05:16 PM	#125
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Yes. Now I need to think about what hardware I'm going to use. Do I go cheap because this is my first attempt, or spend a couple hundred for good stuff because I'll probably be keeping this first one. Leaning toward the latter. I need a bridge, pickups, controls and tuners. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-04-2019, 05:30 PM	#126
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Get good hardware. You want your first build to sound good, so you're encouraged and feel that it was worth the effort. I think hardware is the difference between "cheap" and "decent" instruments-- mainly I think this because entry-level drums can be converted to mid-level drums by replacing the hardware (and maybe re-cutting the bearing edges). __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-04-2019, 08:58 PM	#127
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I did mostly 920D Fender Strat Wiring Harness Hendrix 60's 3 Way w/Blender Treble Bleed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GP0NS0M..._-WbmCbT71BWS2 Fender American Series Stratocaster Tremolo Bridge Assembly - Chrome https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KZE8G..._FXbmCbRE5CC5H Gotoh Magnum Lock-Trad 6-In-Line Guitar Tuners, Chrome https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077K6PD8H..._6XbmCb8E3845V The pick ups I went kind of cheap. Set of Wilkinson HOT Single Coil Pickups for Strat Guitar White MWVS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015Y1TOO2..._TYbmCbQ9JJA7M I can upgrade them easily enough later if need be __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-04-2019, 11:41 PM	#128
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I second the good stuff, you know you'll never let this one go except maybe to your son. Wouldn't you want your son to have the best? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-05-2019, 08:33 AM	#129
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I can't wait to see/hear the finished product. Super cool build project man. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-05-2019, 02:27 PM	#130
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	thanks, It's fun and a little scary. I guess that's part of the fun. I was re-watching a crimson guitars build to prepare for routing out the neck pocket and body cavities, and found something I did wrong on the finger board glue up. I should have used a clamping caul to disperse the pressure to the edges of the neck. He used a 2x4 that he had carved a radius and hollowed center. If I had done that, I think I wouldn't have had the gaps at the edges where the glue sucked up inside. Hopefully the bond holds as is, but next time.... I'll remember to do that. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-05-2019, 02:34 PM	#131
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	he also used locating pins to prevent the fingerboard sliding around. He went through the fret slots to put them in, but I was too scared to mung mine up, so I was just super slow and careful to make sure mine didn't move. here's the gluing up that I didn't photograph: __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-06-2019, 01:08 PM	#132
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I did a bit more neck shaping this morning. Also cut the end of the fret board off. There were similar gaps at the end to what I had on the side, so I did the same sawdust and super glue cure. The shaping I did was mostly to make the heel of the neck level and flat. That led to taking the whole neck down about 1/8". It fits the template very snugly __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-06-2019, 01:13 PM	#133
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I'll use the template and Router to clean up the edges and bottom, but I took most of the material out with a forstner bit on the drill press. I want it 21mm deep so the the surface of the body comes up under the over hang of the fret board. To get close, I set the depth stop to 15mm from contact. Result Then went back with a smaller forstner bit and took another 4 mm or so, got closer to the corners. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-06-2019, 01:15 PM	#134
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	There is playoff football to watch, left over dinner to eat and a nap to take. I'll try to get the routing done after the Eagles beat the Bears. I'm getting excited. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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