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Old 02-05-2004, 07:17 PM   #1
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Do you believe in Corporal punishment? If your kid is extra-bad, what do you do? where is the line between abuse and discipline?


When my kids are acting up, and not responding to my loud and angry voice, i start counting. if I get to 3, they get a swat on the butt. EVERY TIME. not hard, but not a pat, either. In fact, they have actually asked," was that a REAL spank?" and when i said yes, THEN they started to cry.....both kids at different times. this tells me that it's more the point, than the pain. when they cross the line far enough for me to spank, then they are "in trouble" for real, and they're upset.

I have never put them accross my knee and given them a "spanking" like my dad did on special occaisions did with me and my sibs. I can't say that I rule it out completely, but the idea has never crossed my mind, or they have never been that bad.

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Old 02-05-2004, 07:20 PM   #2
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Old 02-05-2004, 07:22 PM   #3
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good thing you don't have kids.
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Old 02-05-2004, 07:36 PM   #4
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I have no children and do NOT intend to (hear me Dagney??).

However, I firmly (pun intended) believe in spanking as a last ditch discipline measure. Worked for me when I was young and it worked for generations of our parents/grandparents etc and it will work now. In fact, I don't think we have ENOUGH spanking going on, thanks largely to the touchy-feely do-gooders who are spending valuable school time teaching kids what is "abuse" and how to report it to the authorities, who have little or no oversight and zero accountability for their actions. Further, there are NO repercussions for the child who alleges "abuse" in an attempt to garner attention or to "get back" at parents who dared to attempt to punish them.

I speak from personal experience.

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Old 02-05-2004, 07:52 PM   #5
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A swat on the ass or a smack on the hand is cool. I don't think ass-beatings are necessary to teach kids right from wrong.

Just because it "worked" back in the day doesn't mean it will work in 2004. Society continues to change...what was good then may not be so good now.

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Old 02-05-2004, 08:02 PM   #6
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:22 PM   #8
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A swat on the ass or a smack on the hand is cool. I don't think ass-beatings are necessary to teach kids right from wrong.

Just because it "worked" back in the day doesn't mean it will work in 2004. Society continues to change...what was good then may not be so good now.
Society changes because touchy feely do gooders and lawyers keep fucking it up.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:26 PM   #9
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Oh yeah...that explains everything!
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:47 PM   #10
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I smack my kids on the butt but not very often. I find time outs and moreso the threat of a time out is the most effective [robot voice] behavior modification tool[/robot].

Here are my timeout victims huddled in terror.

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Old 02-05-2004, 09:53 PM   #11
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Oh yeah...that explains everything!
Yes it does. What's different about 2004 than say 1974 that make child discipline different? why doesn't 1974 methods work today? Have you got a better explanation, smart ass.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:53 PM   #12
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This was before he beat the snot out of 'em with a frying pan.
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Old 02-05-2004, 10:32 PM   #13
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Yes it does. What's different about 2004 than say 1974 that make child discipline different? why doesn't 1974 methods work today? Have you got a better explanation, smart ass.
Well, I'd say there are several factors involved:

--Increasing gender equality
--Research that shows the detrimental effects of physical punishment
--Respect for psychological research
--Better educated parents
--The number of child abuse cases coming forth (that originated back in the day)

If you want to back up your original flippant remark, I'll be happy to back up the above factors.

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Old 02-05-2004, 10:47 PM   #14
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      I'm perfectly willing to spank my kids, and have done so. However, I haven't needed to in years. The last time was when my daughter took her shoes off after she had been specificaly instructed not to in an area that had broken glass. Ripped her right off the ground, swatted her and carried her back to her shoes. This was a couple of years ago.
      On an interesting side note, her big brother witnessed the whole event and quickly followed all orders given, to the letter, for months.
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Old 02-05-2004, 11:07 PM   #15
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I've had this discussion with my parenting friends who I defer to, cause they livin it.

There are moments, they arent daily and shouldnt hopefully be regular, but moments when you need to make an impression- The glass scene is a good example, or running into the street, or the little rat smacking Mom to test it out, who's the boss... then you have to bring a little fear 'o god to show the line. Effective only if rare.
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