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Old 11-16-2009, 02:01 PM   #46
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I dunno. I was just making the case that even people with 'real' depression might find a pet useful.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:02 PM   #47
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I agree, 100%. Unless they are mean to their pet in which case I'll send Shaw over to their house. She's my new enforcer.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:02 PM   #48
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Seeing others bitch and moan and pull attitude does NOT help me when I am stressed.. I am sure its not helping here either.

I will not use the word depressed, because I find it overused, and many times has a huge stigma attached.

You had a bad day, or week... your mind and body started to deal with it, by crying and causing a reaction even you ( most times we do not see our own symptoms) could see.
I had a week like that last spring. I lost my mind, crying, and I cut my hair. BTW that was BIG for me, BUT it was the one thing I could control.
My suggestion is try finding one thing you CAN control each day and do that, also if the tears come, let them... they help.
Getting an animal is great, however if can cause MORE stress without trying to... what if you can't pay for food/vet, what if its a psycho kitty/dog? etc... It is a huge undertaking and one you should consider when you are feeling more like yourself. In the mean time, maybe volunteer at a shelter (with the healthy critters at least at first!!) and most definitely at a no kill place.
Perhaps join a gym, or take a a long walk (find a senior/sick person that has a dog that needs a walk and talk to it as you walk) Exercise seemed to help me, and I am not talking 2-4 hours, I am talking a 20 min walk.. something I could control and quite honestly NOT fail at. I have 2 feet and a heart beat, walking is something I can do


It is good that you put all your knives and pills away HOWEVER!!!!! it bothers me that you even had to mention that. Is there anyone in your circle of friends and family that you can have a heart to heart with? If not, is there anyone here, hell.... PM me I will chat with you. This is a huge warning to me that this could be more that just stress.... and most likely has been building for a while. These feelings are more often thought by people, then most people want to admit, it does NOT mean you are going to self harm or commit suicide, it means you want an easy way out for the issues at hand. The fact that you put them in a closet means you do not want to take an easy way out, and DO want to find the cause, fix it, and move on. GOOD FOR YOU!

I am very serious, PM me if you would like to, talk on here, talk to a friend, talk to a dog/plant/couch whatever... and if you feel you can not do it with those talks, then maybe find a counselor, a Dr, a therapist or someone who has training for more of your specific stressors.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:03 PM   #49
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You are quite right Dana. Which is why we have this:
http://www.iaadp.org/psd_tasks.html
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:09 PM   #50
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Cic that is remarkable. I had no idea that they used dogs for that.
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:58 PM   #51
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I wanted to reply earlier but I did not find the strength to respond, or at lest in full. It is not easy to look at the darkest times of your life. But one mustn't let the darkness consume oneself.

Jaydaan- I am seeing someone, and I have people, friends family ect. I just didn't want to be that crying call in the middle of the night. Or at lest that night.

As for the pet debate I had a pet, Fred, he was a succulent and died at the end of summer. And where I'm living right now I can not have many pets of the animal kind.

It is still a fight to get up every day but I am happy sometimes. The holidays or at lest Thanksgiving , helped.

If this is clinical depression, it must last for six months (DYSM IV) , so I can be sad or even depressed for some time before it is defined as a mental disorder.

Shawnee123 - I don't know if what I felt was unreleasable given my circumstances or not. Nor do I know if what I'm feeling right now is acceptable or not, maybe this is what I'm supposed to feel like or perhaps this is a larger existential problem that I must deal with. I'm not going to go down that path of darkness, but when I started this tread I was sure looking at it. On two random notes, one your name are you a member of the Shanwee Nation or is there another meaning to your name. And two the use of feminine pronouns when in reference to me was it just a guess or do I come off feminine in my postings?

Cicero , classic -I don't know where I fall or should fall on the range of mental wellness, but I just want to be clear that was really hurting that day and this isn't some kind of attention whoring thing


Pico and ME- I'm trying but usually fail at a good balanced diet.


Sorry if my tone is harsh I don't mean to be, but writing does lack inflection which I would use to blunt my words. (this is one of those stream on conciseness posts)

And another thing FINALS SUCK .
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:19 AM   #52
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If this is clinical depression, it must last for six months (DYSM IV) , so I can be sad or even depressed for some time before it is defined as a mental disorder.
Remember, you don't have to wait for an official diagnosis to know you're feeling bad, and start trying to do something about it.

"Stream on conciseness", or stream of consciousness?
Either way, it sounds like you've got a handle on it, and finding a way to cope. Good for you. Keep on fighting, you're worth it.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:38 AM   #53
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:09 AM   #54
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I can second the dog idea.

My dogs literally saved my life a few years ago, after my first suicide attempt and then my second. On the same day.

If not for them, I would not be here now.

They are great to talk to, ask little in return and petting an animal has been proven to be therapeutic. That's why there are therapy dogs. Maybe therapy cats. Some people need something to kick.

I vote dog.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:47 AM   #55
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If might work if I could have a dog,
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:05 AM   #56
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Can you get a kitten? I know the consensus here is that cats dont really help, but a kitten is a totally different story.

Tora, the last time I was in a depressive slump, I started buying books on Zen/Buddhist philosphy....it takes a while to soak in, but eventually they become very useful in guiding your thinking to something less destructive. I also bought The Feeling Good Book by Dr. David Burns.

But really, START EATING REGULAR BALANCED MEALS! Lots of lean protein with fruits and veggies. Your brain chemistry depends on it.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:31 AM   #57
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Exercise, a proper diet, getting out into the sun at least 25 minutes a day - these all help. I have suffered from severe depression all my life, and believe me, I feel your pain. Yes, a kitten will help and I have discovered that my full grown cats help as well. If nothing else they give you something to be responsible for, so that you hesistate before taking that oh-so-final action, If your depression has been going on for a while, please go see a doctor. There is nothing wrong with taking anti-depressants. I have been on several and am currently taking strattera

Your depression may see eternal now, but the one thing in life we can expect is change. Sooner or later the evil mood is going to lift at least a little - maybe a lot. When I was a sophmore in college, I became terribly depressed over the end of a love afair. The university had a gigantic library with 3 sub basements. I spent the entire winter in the deepest basement where all the ancient periodicals were stored. I read the stores and pretended that I lived in 1910. I do not reccomend the sub-basenebt of a library for the clinically depressed, but one day I walked out of there and spring had arrived and the sun was shining. The depression had run its course and I felt normal again.

Please, please don't choose a permanent solution to temporary problem. I have so been through the wringer with the depression. If you need advice or just a friendly person to let it all out to, please PM me. - Sam
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:47 AM   #58
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As for the pet debate I had a pet, Fred, he was a succulent and died at the end of summer. And where I'm living right now I can not have many pets of the animal kind. ~snip
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:53 PM   #59
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I am out off these dark woods now, thanks to my friends, both dwellers and offline people, my counselor, and God.
I have seen that paths I can take and I will never walk this one again.
Again thanks for the support.
~toranokaze BS
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:23 PM   #60
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God that is great news. I wish you the best on your new path to freedom. Cheers.
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