June 10th, 2017: Melty Melt

xoxoxoBruce · 06-09-2017, 11:11 PM

You may have overheard a conversation on the bus, or maybe a line or two in the paper after the sports section.
There's something some science types called Global Warming. They keep saying the ocean is going to get deeper
but what the hell, most of us only use the surface anyway.
There seems to be some disagreement on how fast things will warm up because they keep throwing in methane,
like an Earth fart, and some folderol in Paris France.
So let's just skip over all that mumbo jumbo and look at what happens when ALL the ice melts.

Boy howdy, look at all those new fishing spots.

Nat Geo

phelps · 06-10-2017, 03:31 PM

This is the sort of propaganda that causes people to disbelieve the hysteria around AGW.

Melting the ice in the Arctic has virtually no effect, because it isn't over land. Greenland and Antarctica is the only place that has water that could cause the oceans to rise locked in ice.

Antarctica is an average of -40C. The most hysterical predictions are that we will see... a 5C rise in temperature in the next 100 years. Virtually no ice would melt from Antarctica from that, and Greenland wouldn't see enough to cause more than a few centimeters of sea rise.

You might as well post a "this is what the earth would look like if the sun went supernova and boiled all the water off the planet", because both are about as likely to happen.

(We really should be talking about the coming cooling associated with the grand minimum, anyways.)

xoxoxoBruce · 06-11-2017, 12:58 AM

If you read the post carefully you would see National Geographic stated this is what it would look like IF ALL the ice melted.
By the way, not all the Arctic ice is over water.
But I can see your skepticism after reading a journalist wrote three years ago the sun was going to chill out.

phelps · 06-11-2017, 10:33 AM

The arctic ice that is over land is predominantly over Greenland, which I mentioned, Careful Reader.

The point still stands. This would take well over 40C in warming, and potentially over 60C (depending on variables that we don't fully understand). NO ONE credible is predicting even 10C in warming over the next TWO HUNDRED years. 40C would require at least a millennia assuming that NOTHING else happened... Like a solar gran minimum, which historically happens every few hundred years.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-11-2017, 03:14 PM

THEY DIDN'T SAY IT WOULD HAPPEN, THEY SAID IF IT HAPPENED!
Is that so hard to understand?

phelps · 06-11-2017, 09:43 PM

I understand propaganda. This is propaganda.

BigV · 06-11-2017, 10:27 PM

Welcome to the cellar, phelps.

You're pretty argumentative for a new guy.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-11-2017, 10:33 PM

But he can't read for comprehension because he's so busy trying to argue against Global Warming he's looking for any lead in. Oh wait, maybe it's a she. If so, my apologies.

phelps · 06-12-2017, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

Welcome to the cellar, phelps.

You're pretty argumentative for a new guy.

Apparently your account goes away if you don't log in for a while, because I've been around for years.

But yeah, argue against my account age when you have nothing to say about my words.

Gravdigr · 06-12-2017, 02:38 PM

He called you 'new' because your post count is four (4). He apparently wasn't into researching every thing he could to find out that you aren't 4 posts new. He called you 'new guy' because according to the information readily available to him, you appear to be a new guy.

And even though I totally agree with post #6, Ima call you an apparent asshole, because according to the information readily available to me, you appear to be an asshole.

to the Cellar, FNG.

phelps · 06-12-2017, 03:11 PM

Accurate asshole is fair. I'm more worried about the first.

SPUCK · 06-13-2017, 03:01 AM

It doesn't matter if all the ice melts because it will look like this anyway:

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phelps · 06-13-2017, 10:03 AM

Flying cars and replicants will make up for it.

footfootfoot · 06-13-2017, 10:32 AM

I tend to agree with Phelps in that the data is sort of fear-mongering because it implies that ALL the ice melting is a possibility and or is related to global warming.

If we are going to do a thought experiment, I would also like to see what it would look like if all the water froze, or at least a lot of it. And what would happen when people found out that dogs are just genetically modified human infants.

Happy Monkey · 06-13-2017, 10:59 AM

Forget the water; what if the air froze?

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkcd

If we liquified the whole atmosphere—and for the record, I don't think we should—we could conceivably fit it all in the ground.

06-09-2017, 11:11 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	June 10th, 2017: Melty Melt You may have overheard a conversation on the bus, or maybe a line or two in the paper after the sports section. There's something some science types called Global Warming. They keep saying the ocean is going to get deeper but what the hell, most of us only use the surface anyway. There seems to be some disagreement on how fast things will warm up because they keep throwing in methane, like an Earth fart, and some folderol in Paris France. So let's just skip over all that mumbo jumbo and look at what happens when ALL the ice melts. Boy howdy, look at all those new fishing spots. Nat Geo __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-10-2017, 03:31 PM	#2
phelps Eavesdropper Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 24	Psuedoscience This is the sort of propaganda that causes people to disbelieve the hysteria around AGW. Melting the ice in the Arctic has virtually no effect, because it isn't over land. Greenland and Antarctica is the only place that has water that could cause the oceans to rise locked in ice. Antarctica is an average of -40C. The most hysterical predictions are that we will see... a 5C rise in temperature in the next 100 years. Virtually no ice would melt from Antarctica from that, and Greenland wouldn't see enough to cause more than a few centimeters of sea rise. You might as well post a "this is what the earth would look like if the sun went supernova and boiled all the water off the planet", because both are about as likely to happen. (We really should be talking about the coming cooling associated with the grand minimum, anyways.)

06-11-2017, 12:58 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If you read the post carefully you would see National Geographic stated this is what it would look like IF ALL the ice melted. By the way, not all the Arctic ice is over water. But I can see your skepticism after reading a journalist wrote three years ago the sun was going to chill out. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-11-2017, 03:14 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	THEY DIDN'T SAY IT WOULD HAPPEN, THEY SAID IF IT HAPPENED! Is that so hard to understand? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-11-2017, 10:27 PM	#7
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Welcome to the cellar, phelps. You're pretty argumentative for a new guy. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

06-11-2017, 10:33 AM	#4
phelps Eavesdropper Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 24	The arctic ice that is over land is predominantly over Greenland, which I mentioned, Careful Reader. The point still stands. This would take well over 40C in warming, and potentially over 60C (depending on variables that we don't fully understand). NO ONE credible is predicting even 10C in warming over the next TWO HUNDRED years. 40C would require at least a millennia assuming that NOTHING else happened... Like a solar gran minimum, which historically happens every few hundred years.

06-11-2017, 09:43 PM	#6
phelps Eavesdropper Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 24	I understand propaganda. This is propaganda.

06-11-2017, 10:33 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But he can't read for comprehension because he's so busy trying to argue against Global Warming he's looking for any lead in. Oh wait, maybe it's a she. If so, my apologies. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-12-2017, 02:38 PM	#10
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	He called you 'new' because your post count is four (4). He apparently wasn't into researching every thing he could to find out that you aren't 4 posts new. He called you 'new guy' because according to the information readily available to him, you appear to be a new guy. And even though I totally agree with post #6, Ima call you an apparent asshole, because according to the information readily available to me, you appear to be an asshole. to the Cellar, FNG. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

06-12-2017, 03:11 PM	#11
phelps Eavesdropper Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 24	Accurate asshole is fair. I'm more worried about the first.

06-13-2017, 03:01 AM	#12
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	It doesn't matter if all the ice melts because it will look like this anyway: [IMG][/IMG]

06-13-2017, 10:03 AM	#13
phelps Eavesdropper Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 24	Flying cars and replicants will make up for it.

06-13-2017, 10:32 AM	#14
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I tend to agree with Phelps in that the data is sort of fear-mongering because it implies that ALL the ice melting is a possibility and or is related to global warming. If we are going to do a thought experiment, I would also like to see what it would look like if all the water froze, or at least a lot of it. And what would happen when people found out that dogs are just genetically modified human infants. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

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