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Old 01-05-2011, 05:59 PM   #91
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One of the reasons I jumped on this is because I just had a conversation with a 23 year old lad (on my other forum) about exactly that. Started out with some trite observation about girl gamers, but we then got into a serious conversation.

One of the features of gaming communities is that they tend to be primarily male, and primarily young. There are a few women there, and there's a decent contingent of over 25s, but on the whole it's a young man's environment.

The catcalling, wolf whistling, demands for pics of tits etc are to be expected, and are ironic and funny about 80% of the time. Likewise deliberate misogyny and provocation of the chicks is to be expected.

What i have found quite shocking, is the amount of these young men who really do believe that women are innately less skilled, less rational, more manipulative, more fickle, more emotional, less trustworthy than men. There are older men making the same arguments, guys my age who think that we really are that different and that measurable. They can be lovely and we talk about all sorts of stuff, but scratch the surface and have a serious conversation about it and some really troubling sentiments emerge.

The reason I find it slightly shocking is that this is something that appears to have gone backwards. I see it more now than I did when I was gaming in the early noughties.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:28 PM   #92
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Well as a father of two grown daughters and a wife with a professional degreee, I don't believe that.
That's a unique appeal to authority ! Don't think I've ever used that one.

Of course as a father of THREE grown daughters and....
Ummm, never mind
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:48 PM   #93
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I can only go off my own experience. As a female.

Just as a slightly trite aside:

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Well as a father of two grown daughters and a wife with a professional degreee, I don't believe that.
I asume that you are missing the word 'with' and are not actually characterising yourself in a parental relationship with your wife. :p
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:51 PM   #94
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I just get a little pissed off. I get this shit fed back to me by people who genuinely believe that women are less capable of reason than men, because they are more emotional creatures.
You get pissed off because you are an emotional creature?
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:57 PM   #95
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:53 PM   #96
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:03 PM   #97
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Hi jinx. That made me laugh.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:13 PM   #98
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I can only go off my own experience. As a female.

Just as a slightly trite aside:



I asume that you are missing the word 'with' and are not actually characterising yourself in a parental relationship with your wife. :p
Yea, you would be making a huge mistake if you ASS-u-med that....
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:13 PM   #99
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That's a unique appeal to authority ! Don't think I've ever used that one.

Of course as a father of THREE grown daughters and....
Ummm, never mind
And where is a "unique appeal to authority!" being exercised? Please explain....
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:16 PM   #100
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As I said, I've not before used the number of daughters, their age, or my wife's college attainments
as a way to convince others that my beliefs are correct.

But since I have 3 daughters and you have only 2, my authority must therefore be higher than yours. Right ?

On the other hand, it probably is like a bad joke...
if you have to explain it, it ain't funny.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:37 PM   #101
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I thought it was funny. but then we all know about my SOH.....
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crassic: ow, my feelings. I'm so offended. Seriously, sticks and stones. And you really actually have to give a fuck about what someone thinks for them to be able to hurt you. Big Vajajay, you are a prime example of the fake sincerety gushers that have overwhelmed this board, no wonder you can't see the problem. Dana, you cunt. Shawnee, you slapper. Merc, you jerk. did I miss anyone? I nominate Pico.
well monster, back in the penalty box for you. I am offended by your name calling. As for your assertion that I gush fake sincerity... you know what they say about making an assertion--you can take that ignorant shit and an insert it right up your ass.

and I mean that most sincerely.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:06 PM   #103
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:09 AM   #105
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That picture is fucking hypnotic:P

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Yea, you would be making a huge mistake if you ASS-u-med that....
Gah. I made a typo. I missed an S.

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lulz.
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