02-04-2009, 12:05 PM | #106 |
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my statement was a general one in response to UT's last line. There are a couple people around the cellar who wouldn't provide a cite to save their life.
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No more cite probation...i was just making a point.
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02-04-2009, 12:20 PM | #108 |
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Re, all that said... from what I've read, a new AG generally issues a new policy on these things by memo. But it is a remarkable thing -- and when I say remarkable, I mean in a good sense -- that O issued the memo himself. It gives the policy much more weight. It's something that he will be judged upon by the responsiveness of the whole Federal government, and it means much more than a campaign promise.
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The Reno memo suggested that requests were only to be denied if there was “foreseeable harm” in releasing the documents. The Ashcroft memo suggested that agecies could deny FOIA requests as long as there was a “sound legal basis” for doing so. Ashcroft issues a second memo after 9/11 From a GAO report on the impact of the Ashcroft memo: Quote:
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I see no evidence that the reduction under Reno or Ashcroft resulted in harm or cover-up of information that was not released. So far it seems like they did the right thing and tightened up a very loose process of FOIA releases. So where is the problem? Your cite says that the GAO found that "sound legal basis" for withholding information was the standard by which the various departments would be defended. Sounds prudent to me.
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Or the fact the Obama memo restores a policy similar to Reno and vastly different from Ashbrook. We simply disagree....I want a more open and accountable government. You want to be more prudent. Thats cool! I accept that. But when making a case that there has been NO CHANGE by Obama....I hope you will read all three memos again. The Obama memo represents change...perhaps change you dont like, but change, nonetheless. I'm just glad my guy is in now. Last edited by Redux; 02-04-2009 at 05:51 PM. |
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He's not your guy. He is The Man now. He is everyone's guy, just like Bush was, whether any of us want him or not. I am willing to give him the benifit of the doubt except when I see him doing the same things done by previous politicians. I am going to call him out on every thing I have heard other bitch about for the last 30 years.
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Well you just never know Merc. Maybe he'll do a good job, and you don't want to end up with egg on your face because you criticized too soon do you?
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Unlike popular belief about me, I want him to be the most successful president eva. EVA! But I know better. Keep your eye on the ball.
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Aussies are invited to the bitch fest?
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How can you know better? Do you have inside information? He's only just begun, so I don't see how you can possibly make any kind of rational judgement about his abilities just yet. Give him a few months and then start, but don't go making unfounded judgements just yet.
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I wont be doing too much partying for a little while though. I've got a little under two months and I'll be having a baby.
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I can't sing that well. lol
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