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Old 07-26-2006, 01:55 PM   #1
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7/26/2006: Hindu ritual sacrifice


"Hindus perform a ritual sacrifice for good health and safety on the south coast of Java, Indonesia", says the official caption on this from the WaPo Day in Pics.

I don't know how common this sort of practice is, and can't get any idea from Wikipedia on it. I would have to just say it's terribly sad and ridiculous, if not outright repulsive. In a culture where scarcity is not uncommon, why just drop a beast into the sea when it could provide several hundred meals? How can such a practice survive when it is clearly superstition - and worse than ineffective?
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:11 PM   #2
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In a culture where scarcity is not uncommon, why just drop a beast into the sea when it could provide several hundred meals? How can such a practice survive when it is clearly superstition - and worse than ineffective?
Do they eat sharks?
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:18 PM   #3
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Could it be the scarcity that drives them to these practices? I think so. The practice survives everyday another fisherman comes back. If he doesn't return? It was a bad cow. These things are just part of what they believe, they aren't hurting anyone, but they do believe they are bettering themselves.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:25 PM   #4
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Could it be the scarcity that drives them to these practices? I think so. The practice survives everyday another fisherman comes back. If he doesn't return? It was a bad cow. These things are just part of what they believe, they aren't hurting anyone, but they do believe they are bettering themselves.
If you love something...set it free. (Insert pretty butterflies here)
If it comes back to you...make a steak.
If it does not, it was a bad cow. Bad, Bad Cow!

(Just struck me funny)
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:25 PM   #5
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... These things are just part of what they believe, they aren't hurting anyone...
Not hurting anyone? Ask the cow.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:24 PM   #6
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"Hindus perform a ritual sacrifice...
Hindus? The people that consider the cow a sacred animal?
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:36 PM   #7
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Hindus? The people that consider the cow a sacred animal?
Wouldn't be fit for sacrifice if it weren't sacred...
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:40 PM   #8
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Wouldn't be fit for sacrifice if it weren't sacred...
Huh. You're spot on.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:42 PM   #9
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Alright... I get the scarcity part, and I believe it to be mostly true. However, did anyone else notice the guys in the background with the videocameras?
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:42 PM   #10
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How can such a practice survive when it is clearly superstition - and worse than ineffective?
It's only "clearly superstition" from the outside. Just ask James Randi.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:49 PM   #11
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Well, it's for the family movies.

"Ahh, dear progressive great granddaughter...here is film of your great great grandfather drowning a bad cow. These are the times we need to share."

Sniffle...
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:33 PM   #12
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Well, it's for the family movies.

"Ahh, dear progressive great granddaughter...here is film of your great great grandfather drowning a bad cow. These are the times we need to share."

Sniffle...
Why do people find it strange that someone is videotaping the event? Why does no one find it odd that someone took the still image of it that you're looking at right now?

They're drowning a cow for their religion. Big deal. These days plenty of people videotape another popular practice that is "clearly superstition" for home movie purposes that they do share with their family after the event: the circumcision of their newborn son.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:21 AM   #13
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Why do people find it strange that someone is videotaping the event? Why does no one find it odd that someone took the still image of it that you're looking at right now?
I thought about that, but the video cam is off another boat...like maybe it's National Geographic filming an ancient ritual or something. Dudes on the boat should be concentrating on the "holiness" of it all.

BTW, I wouldn't want to see a circumcision, either!
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:55 PM   #14
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The world is a place of scarcity, and we live in it, and yet: McDonald's. Who am I, as an American, to pass judgement on a waste of good meat?
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:47 PM   #15
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The world is a place of scarcity
Actually there is more than enough food and wealth for everyone, it's just unevenly distributed.
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