Somali pirates hijack Saudi oil tanker - Page 3

TheMercenary · 11-22-2008, 03:26 PM

An interesting twist on things.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...to-attack.html

TheMercenary · 11-22-2008, 05:08 PM

Another update:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...efer=worldwide

Elspode · 11-22-2008, 11:59 PM

I think that its fairly remarkable that these pirates are even able to get on a gigantic ship that is underway, let alone seize it.

It seems to me that this sort of thing should be relatively easy to prevent.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-23-2008, 12:07 AM

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The military reports said the tanker was too large and too laden to outmaneuver pirate speedboats, and was poorly defended, according to AFP.

Unarmed, untrained and probably surprised... it took 16 minutes.

Griff · 11-23-2008, 07:12 AM

I picked up an interesting tidbit on NPR the other day. They blamed the problem on the lack of government but the state gun control aspect of this is interesting. The pirates could easily be repelled but crews can't carry weapons if they're going through certain territorial waters. So instead of handing out 20 sidearms on a ship, taxpayers will be paying for destroyers to patrol a million square miles of ocean.

TheMercenary · 11-23-2008, 07:48 AM

I didn't understand the legality thing myself. Most large ships, including cruise ships have a small number of weapons on hand. I just don't see why they couldn't increase the number of weapons. There are now some ex-SBS guys who are going to offer their services in the form of a commercial organization to provide security to the shipping industry. I am sure it will be cheaper than the ransoms being paid, but costly never the less. As Iraq dries up there will be more private security available for lease.

Pico and ME · 11-23-2008, 08:21 AM

I like that idea. Keep the Blackwaters of the world in other countries and out of ours.

BrianR · 11-23-2008, 08:30 AM

I want to know, as Bullitt does, why no one has gone to China Station or anywhere else ex-Special Forces hang out and hired a few teams to repatriate their ship(s). SEALs are well-trained for this kind of thing and would have little trouble taking a bunch of untrained pirates. SAS and Spetznaz are in the same league.

Protecting the ships is easy, too. Stinger missiles, RPG-7 launchers and such are cheap, easily available and untraceable. As long as the weapons are not visible to inspectors (easy to hide), you're home free.

Were I the owner of a hijacked ship, that's what I'd do...arm the crew and salt a few Special Operators among them for good measure.

Trilby · 11-23-2008, 08:45 AM

I'd load my ship up with herpetic, gonorrheic whores. Everyone knows a pirate cannot resist a whore. In a few weeks, they'd be begging for ointments, salves, unguents, cold-compresses, Darvocet and what-not. That's where the real money will be made: treating the STD's of the pirate caste.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-23-2008, 10:28 AM

I dunno, there's a good chance they already have AIDS.

TheMercenary · 11-23-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianR

I want to know, as Bullitt does, why no one has gone to China Station or anywhere else ex-Special Forces hang out and hired a few teams to repatriate their ship(s). SEALs are well-trained for this kind of thing and would have little trouble taking a bunch of untrained pirates. SAS and Spetznaz are in the same league.

Protecting the ships is easy, too. Stinger missiles, RPG-7 launchers and such are cheap, easily available and untraceable. As long as the weapons are not visible to inspectors (easy to hide), you're home free.

Were I the owner of a hijacked ship, that's what I'd do...arm the crew and salt a few Special Operators among them for good measure.

Second. I am sure we are not the first to think of it. It would be a great exercise for the SSN North Carolina or a similar boat to exercise the capability of delivering a SEAL team unseen.

glatt · 11-25-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by barefoot serpent

The Indian Navy scores a mothership

Turns out the "mother ship" wasn't really a mother ship and was a Thai fishing trawler that the pirates had attacked just hours earlier and were still in the process of trying to take over. The fishermen on that trawler were resisting the pirates in one part of the trawler when the Indian Navy came up and blew them out of the water. Over a dozen Thai fishermen are missing because of that Indian Naval action. One survived the Navy attack and drifted at sea for days and has just told his tale.

I guess this is why fighting pirates is so hard. The collateral damage is hard to avoid.

Flint · 11-25-2008, 02:36 PM

Jesus, that's horrible.

classicman · 11-25-2008, 03:01 PM

Hmmm - good story if you are a pirate arrrgggghhh. What else can he say to get off?
That sux! Of course if that was the US we'd be getting badmouthed from everyone about it.

Oh and another got hijacked too.

Griff · 11-25-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Of course if that was the US we'd be getting badmouthed from everyone about it.

Did your hypothetical feelings get hurt?

11-22-2008, 03:26 PM	#31
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	An interesting twist on things. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...to-attack.html __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

11-22-2008, 05:08 PM	#32
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Another update: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...efer=worldwide __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

11-22-2008, 11:59 PM	#33
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I think that its fairly remarkable that these pirates are even able to get on a gigantic ship that is underway, let alone seize it. It seems to me that this sort of thing should be relatively easy to prevent. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-23-2008, 07:12 AM	#35
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I picked up an interesting tidbit on NPR the other day. They blamed the problem on the lack of government but the state gun control aspect of this is interesting. The pirates could easily be repelled but crews can't carry weapons if they're going through certain territorial waters. So instead of handing out 20 sidearms on a ship, taxpayers will be paying for destroyers to patrol a million square miles of ocean. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-23-2008, 07:48 AM	#36
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I didn't understand the legality thing myself. Most large ships, including cruise ships have a small number of weapons on hand. I just don't see why they couldn't increase the number of weapons. There are now some ex-SBS guys who are going to offer their services in the form of a commercial organization to provide security to the shipping industry. I am sure it will be cheaper than the ransoms being paid, but costly never the less. As Iraq dries up there will be more private security available for lease. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

11-23-2008, 08:21 AM	#37
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	I like that idea. Keep the Blackwaters of the world in other countries and out of ours.

11-23-2008, 08:30 AM	#38
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I want to know, as Bullitt does, why no one has gone to China Station or anywhere else ex-Special Forces hang out and hired a few teams to repatriate their ship(s). SEALs are well-trained for this kind of thing and would have little trouble taking a bunch of untrained pirates. SAS and Spetznaz are in the same league. Protecting the ships is easy, too. Stinger missiles, RPG-7 launchers and such are cheap, easily available and untraceable. As long as the weapons are not visible to inspectors (easy to hide), you're home free. Were I the owner of a hijacked ship, that's what I'd do...arm the crew and salt a few Special Operators among them for good measure. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

11-23-2008, 08:45 AM	#39
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I'd load my ship up with herpetic, gonorrheic whores. Everyone knows a pirate cannot resist a whore. In a few weeks, they'd be begging for ointments, salves, unguents, cold-compresses, Darvocet and what-not. That's where the real money will be made: treating the STD's of the pirate caste. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-23-2008, 10:28 AM	#40
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I dunno, there's a good chance they already have AIDS. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-25-2008, 02:36 PM	#43
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11-25-2008, 03:01 PM	#44
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Hmmm - good story if you are a pirate arrrgggghhh. What else can he say to get off? That sux! Of course if that was the US we'd be getting badmouthed from everyone about it. Oh and another got hijacked too. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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