Buying a New Car - Page 2

orthodoc · 08-22-2012, 04:25 PM

It's typical Car Sales 101, their managers probably sack them if they don't do it ... you can just answer the email and sweetly tell him to go right ahead and show the car to that 'other customer' ... and go and buy from someone else. But they're all liars, so ... you pays your money and takes your choice.

monster · 08-22-2012, 04:27 PM

But couldn't they at least put a little effort into it? ah well....

Griff · 08-23-2012, 06:57 AM

Yeah, be creative when you lie to me. Is that too much to ask?

nowhereman · 08-23-2012, 07:09 AM

Back a few, I was looking at a Mercury that kind of appealed to me (although I didn't really need another car). I'm in the guy's office, along comes another sales guy with "another customer" who wants to test drive the Merc "if this guy isn't buying it". My guy says "You want it or not?" I toss the other "customer" the keys, tell him it's a real nice car and leave. I'll just add that I was there early and from where I was sitting, there were no other customers in the place.
Salesguy called me for a week, until I told him I had bought a new Saab instead.

Beest · 08-23-2012, 07:58 AM

When I was shopping for hatchbacks the first guy I spoke to, at a local Ford dealer, strigjht out lied to me about the availability of manual hatchbacks, went in his office to check the database, one manual hatcback in all of Michigan, across the state, might already be sold.

Any other dealer I went to, within 20 miles of this guy, had at least 2 or 3 sitting on the lot.

Maybe it's an old school thing, they don't know I can check the inventoryof dealers myself from their own websites, maybe a lot of customers don't know this and the trick still works.

monster · 08-23-2012, 09:59 AM

how funny, I was going to post that clip too -but i wanted it dubbed to "Cellar says bullshit"

lumberjim · 08-23-2012, 10:41 AM

Monster,

The other Chrysler dealers are this guy's competitors. they do not black list customers. go to the dealer that shows the van you want in inventory. use the pricing beest gets as a MAXIMUM price. offer something lower than that. next week is a good week to buy.

pay no more than 2.75% for a 5 year loan with your good credit. analyze rebate vs special APR option, too. I can offer some help with that if you like.

Looks like they have $2000 rebate plus $1250 Ally/Chase bonus.... whatever that is... and some kind of trade in assistance thing. maybe call 2 different dealers and ask for the details on those offers.

monster · 08-23-2012, 11:00 AM

Thanks Jim

lumberjim · 08-23-2012, 11:21 AM

no prob, and good luck! car shopping should NOT suck.

monster · 08-23-2012, 11:25 AM

all shopping sucks

BrianR · 08-25-2012, 10:06 AM

Jim, when I have a down payment saved and an offer from my credit union, will you advise me on trading in my Avalanche on a new one?

Yes, I know you don't work for Chevrolet, but I am assuming that the process is similar everywhere.

jimhelm · 08-25-2012, 12:47 PM

Of course. Its in my contract

Rhianne · 08-25-2012, 03:16 PM

You wouldn't buy a $40 camera without shopping around, why spend thousands without doing so? In these internet days I even shop around before buying a CD.

I go out, look at cars, decide what I want then go visit as many dealers as is practical and decide upon the best deal no matter which salesman has the prettiest smile. Some places I'll never go back to.

jimhelm · 08-25-2012, 04:40 PM

See, I disagree with that. Ill pay more if the service is excellent. If the sales person has the balls to ask you to pay $1-200 more because he plans on remembering who you are the next day, and the dealer its closer....

But only to a point.

monster · 08-25-2012, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhianne

You wouldn't buy a $40 camera without shopping around, why spend thousands without doing so? In these internet days I even shop around before buying a CD.

I go out, look at cars, decide what I want then go visit as many dealers as is practical and decide upon the best deal no matter which salesman has the prettiest smile. Some places I'll never go back to.

Who said they weren't shopping around? Not me for sure. Also, you're in the UK. No offence, but you have no idea. And that was kind of a patronizing post.

08-22-2012, 04:25 PM	#16
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	It's typical Car Sales 101, their managers probably sack them if they don't do it ... you can just answer the email and sweetly tell him to go right ahead and show the car to that 'other customer' ... and go and buy from someone else. But they're all liars, so ... you pays your money and takes your choice. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

08-22-2012, 04:27 PM	#17
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	But couldn't they at least put a little effort into it? ah well.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-23-2012, 06:57 AM	#18
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Yeah, be creative when you lie to me. Is that too much to ask? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-23-2012, 09:59 AM	#21
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	how funny, I was going to post that clip too -but i wanted it dubbed to "Cellar says bullshit" __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-23-2012, 10:41 AM	#22
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Monster, The other Chrysler dealers are this guy's competitors. they do not black list customers. go to the dealer that shows the van you want in inventory. use the pricing beest gets as a MAXIMUM price. offer something lower than that. next week is a good week to buy. pay no more than 2.75% for a 5 year loan with your good credit. analyze rebate vs special APR option, too. I can offer some help with that if you like. Looks like they have $2000 rebate plus $1250 Ally/Chase bonus.... whatever that is... and some kind of trade in assistance thing. maybe call 2 different dealers and ask for the details on those offers. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-23-2012, 07:09 AM	#19
nowhereman sliding down the razor blade of life Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: just over the edge Posts: 228	Back a few, I was looking at a Mercury that kind of appealed to me (although I didn't really need another car). I'm in the guy's office, along comes another sales guy with "another customer" who wants to test drive the Merc "if this guy isn't buying it". My guy says "You want it or not?" I toss the other "customer" the keys, tell him it's a real nice car and leave. I'll just add that I was there early and from where I was sitting, there were no other customers in the place. Salesguy called me for a week, until I told him I had bought a new Saab instead.

08-23-2012, 07:58 AM	#20
Beest Adapt and Survive Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, Mi Posts: 957	When I was shopping for hatchbacks the first guy I spoke to, at a local Ford dealer, strigjht out lied to me about the availability of manual hatchbacks, went in his office to check the database, one manual hatcback in all of Michigan, across the state, might already be sold. Any other dealer I went to, within 20 miles of this guy, had at least 2 or 3 sitting on the lot. Maybe it's an old school thing, they don't know I can check the inventoryof dealers myself from their own websites, maybe a lot of customers don't know this and the trick still works.

08-23-2012, 11:00 AM	#23
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Thanks Jim __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-23-2012, 11:21 AM	#24
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	no prob, and good luck! car shopping should NOT suck. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-23-2012, 11:25 AM	#25
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	all shopping sucks __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-25-2012, 10:06 AM	#26
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	Jim, when I have a down payment saved and an offer from my credit union, will you advise me on trading in my Avalanche on a new one? Yes, I know you don't work for Chevrolet, but I am assuming that the process is similar everywhere. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

08-25-2012, 12:47 PM	#27
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	Of course. Its in my contract __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-25-2012, 03:16 PM	#28
Rhianne Nearly done. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Teetering on the edge. Posts: 1,134	You wouldn't buy a $40 camera without shopping around, why spend thousands without doing so? In these internet days I even shop around before buying a CD. I go out, look at cars, decide what I want then go visit as many dealers as is practical and decide upon the best deal no matter which salesman has the prettiest smile. Some places I'll never go back to.

08-25-2012, 04:40 PM	#29
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	See, I disagree with that. Ill pay more if the service is excellent. If the sales person has the balls to ask you to pay $1-200 more because he plans on remembering who you are the next day, and the dealer its closer.... But only to a point. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

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