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Old 08-16-2019, 09:28 AM   #136
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"But if black markets solve everything"

I didn't say that.

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"why do you need someone to "wreck shit" in the first place? Seems like a wasted effort, if such shit doesn't affect you in any way."

Cuz I shouldn't have to live or transact in the shadows. I will, but I shouldn't have to.

I believe, again, I own myself and have a right to my life, liberty, and property, and, my life, liberty, and property are only forfeit, in part or whole, if I knowingly, willingly, deprive another of his life, liberty, or property. If I'm told 'no, you can't have X' (and I've done nuthin' to warrant such prohibition) my inclination is to go and find X. I'd rather not have to pay double and deal with the disreputable, but I will cuz I decide what's appropriate for me. And, while I do what I do, I hire folks on the local, state, and federal levels to be spikes in the trees, to wreck shit (lookin' toward the long term...dismantling a leviathan is not an over-night job).
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:08 AM   #137
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Sure, man, I get it. I understand your belief system. What I'm saying is that your guy, Trump, has--at least on this one issue--moved categorically against what you believe in. You said there were no examples, and there is one, right here. Could there maybe be others?
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:43 PM   #138
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"What I'm saying is that your guy, Trump, has--at least on this one issue--moved categorically against what you believe in."

More than one issue: he signed that damned omnibus bill.

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"You said there were no examples"

No, I did not.

This...

Can you point to any piece of Trump-sponsored or Trump-considered legislation that has moved, or will move, America in the direction of state socialism or state communism?

Just one.

I can. Red flag laws. but I think he's just messin' with the dems on that one.


...is what I said.

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"Could there maybe be others?"

I have no doubt there will be.

Where did I say Trump was/is the perfect blunt instrument? He's not. As long as he keeps doin' what's he's doin' (pissin' in Bruce's and tw's cornflakes) I can live with his not bein' perfectly aligned with me.

Now: if he sides with gun banners (let's go get them debbil guns!), that's a no-brainer for me, but a pissy little accessory? Gimme a break.

Do you, when you vote, ever find a perfect candidate who aligns with you square on everything?

Say 'yes' and I know you're a liar.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:45 PM   #139
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:33 AM   #140
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If a Democrat had signed that, the wailing in the wilderness about it being the first step to total confiscation, would be deafening.
You seem somehow -- damned if I can figure out how anyone could -- to have missed that bump-stocks really had no friends anyway after Vegas.

As a human-rights organization, the NRA shows a lot of canniness along with its power. We clearly plan to outlast any madness of crowds that might ever militate against human rights and political liberties. Yeah, I'm a Life Member. And you? I'm also fond of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. They make some irrefutable arguments than anyone with an interest should read.

A human right, say, not to endure a genocide is of great moment, saith the JPFO. It's also more readily construable from the text of the Fourth Amendment than even the right to, er, privacy -- and what a can of worms Google has made of that.
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Old 08-24-2019, 02:26 AM   #141
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You seem somehow -- damned if I can figure out how anyone could -- to have missed that bump-stocks really had no friends anyway after Vegas.

As a human-rights organization, the NRA shows a lot of canniness along with its power. We clearly plan to outlast any madness of crowds that might ever militate against human rights and political liberties. Yeah, I'm a Life Member. And you? I'm also fond of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. They make some irrefutable arguments than anyone with an interest should read.

A human right, say, not to endure a genocide is of great moment, saith the JPFO. It's also more readily construable from the text of the Fourth Amendment than even the right to, er, privacy -- and what a can of worms Google has made of that.
I'm not a life member of anything, I want the option of quitting if I don't like what they are doing.
There is no argument which is irrefutable, only shit you agree with. Why should I care what the Jews do is their country, they are an ally, not a friend.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:34 PM   #142
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"I want the option of quitting if I don't like what they are doing."

Don't we all.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:28 AM   #143
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You can quit the NRA Lifer but they keep your money, so they don't care.
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