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Old 10-03-2011, 06:58 AM   #1
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Wall Street Protests

Well, many protests start small and grow, and it takes the media a while to catch on, but this is now the most under-reported story of the year.

Here's the A(ussie)BC http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-0...?section=world

Three weeks of continuous "occupation", 700 arrests, hardly any mention.

This is floating around on FB, I cannot verify it. Anyone?

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If only the cellar had a New York stringer. Who wasn't completely nuts.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:01 AM   #2
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Oh and another friend posted this link: which seems to be genuine.

http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corpora...=580&width=850

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New York City Police Foundation — New York

JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple. The money will pay for 1,000 new patrol car laptops, as well as security monitoring software in the NYPD's main data center.

New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing "profound gratitude" for the company's donation.

"These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe," Dimon said. "We're incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work."
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:39 AM   #3
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the Huffington Post is reporting on it.

I expect a drum circle to break out any minute now.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:53 AM   #4
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The image is fake. It's not even taken in the right place.

I wish the Occupy Wall Street message was more clear. I really want them to accomplish something good.

Off topic, but pissing me off (tangentially related because they are making fun of the Occupy Wall Street folks): I'm watching CNN for the first time in a couple years. Apparently you can't say "Nigger" (in reference to Rick Perry's "Niggerhead") when reporting the damn news. These folks are all such children they act sheepish even calling it the "N word."

Now they've got a former astronaut "launching" kids into space to get kids excited about math and science. I bet those kids are thinking "this old dude is so lame, but at least we're on TV. Are we famous yet? When do we get to meet Lady Gaga?"
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:58 AM   #5
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The Washington Post has no trouble printing the word, but on NPR they were calling it "the N-word."

Edit: And it got me wondering, when I read somewhere that it was a commonplace name back in the day. There's a cliff on Monhegan Island called Black Head. (Also one called White Head.) I wonder if it used to be called Nigger Head and was sanitized.
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:01 AM   #6
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These folks are all such children they act sheepish even calling it the "N word."
Why are they children? I think they are showing consideration, you offay mother fucking cracker. Go back to Europe, where you came from.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:33 PM   #7
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Why are they children? I think they are showing consideration, you offay mother fucking cracker. Go back to Europe, where you came from.
The example you directed at me is completely different than the case we're talking about. They are reporters. They are reporting a fact. They aren't calling anyone names.

I've read a few European newspapers. In my experience they tend to actually use offensive words when that's the fact of what was said or posted. I admire cultures that are mature enough to face facts.

Also, saying "N word" is not meaningfully different than saying "nigger" to me. It's still invoking an offensive (in the context) word.

If they wanted to be considerate they wouldn't specify which racial epithet was part of the place name. Saying something like "... a place name containing a racial epithet ..." is sufficiently descriptive while truly being removed from a word that is offensive in the first order.

I would prefer it if they'd just use the word without varnishing it.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:28 AM   #8
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The example you directed at me is completely different than the case we're talking about. They are reporters. They are reporting a fact. They aren't calling anyone names.

I've read a few European newspapers. In my experience they tend to actually use offensive words when that's the fact of what was said or posted. I admire cultures that are mature enough to face facts.

Also, saying "N word" is not meaningfully different than saying "nigger" to me. It's still invoking an offensive (in the context) word.

If they wanted to be considerate they wouldn't specify which racial epithet was part of the place name. Saying something like "... a place name containing a racial epithet ..." is sufficiently descriptive while truly being removed from a word that is offensive in the first order.

I would prefer it if they'd just use the word without varnishing it.
Funnily enough, Mum and I were discussing the offensive words and euphemisms the other day. She'd heard some programme or other about some research on responses to 'rude' words. Turns out that for people who find the word 'fuck' offensive, there is a revulsion response. Probably borne of hearing their parents responses to those words (displaying revulsion). Euphemisms, such as 'the f-word' or 'effing' do not provoke the same revulsion response for those people.

I fail to see why 'fuck all' is any more offensive than 'sweet fanny adams'. But that's because I don't have a revulsion response to the word 'fuck'. If I did, I would find the euphemism far more palatable. Apparently.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:05 PM   #9
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Also, saying "N word" is not meaningfully different than saying "nigger" to me. It's still invoking an offensive (in the context) word.

If they wanted to be considerate they wouldn't specify which racial epithet was part of the place name. Saying something like "... a place name containing a racial epithet ..." is sufficiently descriptive while truly being removed from a word that is offensive in the first order.

I would prefer it if they'd just use the word without varnishing it.
Yeah there is a disingenuous tone in their voice when they say "the N word" instead of just saying Nigger. And as you point out, they might just as easily say racial epithet.

Also, I had to re-read it twice but I think Spexx was making an attempt at ironic humor but used the wink smiley instead fo the ironic humor smiley.
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:42 PM   #10
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The image is fake. It's not even taken in the right place.

I wish the Occupy Wall Street message was more clear. I really want them to accomplish something good.

Thanks, I was doubtful. Could be anywhere, or anywhen, or just shopped, for all I know.


Hey, you think maybe the Arab spring is going to spread to the USA? You guys might have your very own democraccy movement, and take back your government from the corrupt, self-serving plutocratic theocrats that have siezed control of your country. Wouldn't than be nice?
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:18 PM   #11
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I've seen and read plenty on it. Apparently there really isn't that much going on. The ones who keep claiming that it isn't being reported are the protesters.


I was reading about a week ago and trying to find out how many were there. After going thru many articles to find that info, it was reported that there were about 200 total. That number has grown quite a bit and there are things happening in other cities as well. The 700 arrests include people simply being ticketed for minor infractions. meh. The problem seems to be that they are not well organized, nor unified in what they want. There are people claiming all sorts of things from Bush/Cheney prosecutions to 4 day work weeks.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:29 PM   #12
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It's an infant grassroots "thing", so it isn't actually solidified with goals yet. I've been following the twitter hashtag #occupywallstreet and TheNation's blog by Greg Mitchell on it. There are a few very informative articles on it's origins and what it isn't. Here's one.

BusinessInsider

Here's another:

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One thing about the protests and having a PR firm working for them pro-bono, is that hopefully, the average citizen will start asking questions and go inform themselves. Information and knowledge are power and way too many people just blindly buy the rhetoric they are fed by the media and those in power.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:09 PM   #13
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Its moved outside of New York.

I have the choice of going to several in Indiana. Lafayette and Indy are closer. I'm gonna call my nephew at Purdue and ask him what he knows about it.

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Old 10-03-2011, 03:19 PM   #14
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It is strange that there is very little media coverage (well, really not that strange), but this guy is trying to do something about it...



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Old 10-03-2011, 03:35 PM   #15
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Hot Damn - This guy nailed it. Im sure Fox doesn't air this one...
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