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When i was a kid and used to still say prayers before going to sleep (just in bed, not kneeling down or anything) I used to include in my prayer, along with laying me down to sleep my soul to keep etc, I also included a little plea that there wouldn't be a nuclear war in my lifetime...or in my future children's lifetime, or their future children's lifetime. I used to like to cover all bases ya know?
Fear of nuclear armageddon was a very real part of the 70s/80s childhood experience as far as I recall.
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...or maybe when they say "work" they just fucking mean "employment", like most people do and there IS no attack on motherhood as difficult and important. fuckin' duh.
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Moms from all walks of life, along with practically all other Americans, paid to bail out the CEO's. You'd think the CEO's might return the favor, but they'd rather cut their tax rates ever further while calling upon the middle and working class to "share in the sacrifice." You can require that people have the "dignity" of work all you like, but if there are no jobs or the jobs available pay only minimum wage, much good it's going to do anyone. Moms included. |
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04-28-2012, 12:16 AM | #52 |
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i am the last one to critique stay at home parents of any kind... i was one...
but to be fair, it seems very likely that Romney's wife would have a maid for cleaning and possibly cooking - or at least afford taking her family to eat out whenever she doesn't feel like cooking - be able to send her kids to the best daycare in town, best schools and best after school activities and tutors, quite possibly with a driver... once those are covered, you have pretty much covered most - if not all - of the hours most employed parents would otherwise be employed in, and aren't actually doing anymore parenting then an employed parent would do. its quite possible Romney himself could have had about as much quality time with the kids as she did if he didn't pick a job that required so much traveling. and that is all assuming she didn't also have a nanny... |
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They rented a $75 month basement apartment when they first got married and had their son. Then she delayed going to school to be a stay at home mom. She also went back to school part-time so it wouldn't interfere with HER raising her kids.
Traceur - be careful before posting on assumptions.
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04-28-2012, 01:42 PM | #54 |
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That was for a short time. And then they became so wealthy as to afford a cleaning ladies and other hired help. Most of the time, the Romneys were well off. That little reality gets lost in massive spin about a $75 apartment.
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04-28-2012, 01:46 PM | #55 |
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I thought mitt's family already had money? Guess I don't really know their story.
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Ann and Mitt married in 1969, the year that his father went from being governor of Michigan to being the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and well after he was CEO of American Motors. There's no way Mitt would have been wanting for money if he needed it, but he made either the political or the ethical decision to start out NOT taking advantage of his father's wealth, at least immediately. The Romneys weren't in any danger of POVERTY, but clearly decided that there's a problem with starting his family with the same level of wealth he would have potentially enjoyed from his father.
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Her story is a good read. I learned a lot about her.
Others are more interested in "massive spin" As a parent if I had the ability to stay home, I would. As a grandparent if I had the financial means to allow my daughter or son to stay home and raise their child(ren) I would willingly do that as well. Some are too partisan to grasp that. They'd rather bitch moan and demean others for their wealth.
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This isnt about demeaning them for their wealth. It's about whether or not someone who has never experienced really being on the breadline and making those decisions has the kind of expertise to speak for others in that position.
Whether they ever were in that position i dont know.
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To you, I believe. To many others, that's exactly what it is.
Its OK, IIRC, There were some pretty good presidents that were wealthy. Kennedy, for one, was pretty well thought of as a pres and look at the money he came from.
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