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10-22-2007, 09:01 PM | #16 |
When Do I Get Virtual Unreality?
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I like it when hypocrites get pwned.
Does it strike anyone else as funny that this comes in the City of Brotherly Love?
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10-23-2007, 12:15 AM | #17 | |
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Gay Scouts... The Scouts have a "Homosexual Incest" badge?
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10-23-2007, 11:35 AM | #18 |
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10-18-2012, 08:07 AM | #19 | |
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First, I know there is a lot of good to be found in the Boy Scouts of America.
Second, I know there is a lot of good to be found in the Boy Scouts of America. Third, I know there is a lot of good to be found in the Boy Scouts of America. BUT... I have been bothered for years by their policies regarding: ... exclusion of gays ... keeping secret lists of names of men accused of molesting scouts. Finally, an Oregon case has tackled the second issue. NWCN.com by SUSANNAH FRAME / KING 5 News October 17, 2012 Public to get access to Boy Scouts’ ‘perversion files’ Quote:
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10-18-2012, 11:50 PM | #20 |
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An on-line database is now available at the following link...
http://spreadsheets.latimes.com/boyscouts-cases/ I did a simple search for Oregon, and the thing that impressed me most was that so many different cities were listed. I mean, I might have expected a larger number of listings for the bigger cities, but it so many different towns and cities were listed. My thought was that the parents of most kids involved in scouting probably have no idea how widespread is the problem. |
10-22-2012, 08:15 PM | #21 | |
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Heck they could save money that way by being able to keep the brown shirts.
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10-23-2012, 12:46 PM | #22 |
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What is it about old(er) men and young(er) boys? You've got the Catholic priesthood (most famously at least), school locker rooms and male-centric organizations, like Boy Scouts. And prison, to an extent.
Do nuns just never attempt to diddle little girls? Do they just get away with it better? I was a Girl Scout back in the day and I don't ever remember any Girl Scout-focused tales floating around like the one about tying a shoestring to your bits while camping as a "TAKE ME!" signal to the authoritative figure. Did those stories manage to miss me? I also don't remember any scandals involving female coaches 'showing their athletes how to shower'. Sure, you hear about she-teachers bedding a male students, but you don't hear about them bedding female ones. Is there just more discretion between both parties?
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10-23-2012, 06:36 PM | #23 |
I'm still a jerk
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I think it is a power thing wolf.
I hate the scouts they act like they own the federal/state parks.
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10-24-2012, 07:25 AM | #24 | |
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Sexual predators come mostly from one group. Not women. Not gays. Most sexual predators are otherwise called heterosexual males. How this plays out in research remains unknown. But pedophiles are often a same sexual subgroup that most aggressively mocks or condemns homosexuals. |
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10-24-2012, 01:26 PM | #25 |
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Mitt Romney is responsible for this madness.
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The BSA is finally making a decision, but I seriously question if this one is for the better or worse.
NY Times By ERIK ECKHOLM April 19, 2013 Boy Scouts Move to Lift Ban on Gay Youth Members Quote:
a person MUST be the parent of a boy who has joined the Scouts. So, a gay boy is allowed to join, but his gay father or mother are not allowed to participate ? Separating boys from their parent(s) as a matter of policy does not seem like the very good idea to me. Quote:
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04-20-2013, 09:28 AM | #27 |
To shreds, you say?
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Makes sense to me. Most gay male adults aren't interested in little boys sexually, it's usually the straight males with families.
So the predators will be allowed to remain, and will have more sheep in their flocks. Sort of a win-win-lose situation. They probably should have just gone with DADT.
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While not ideal, I see this as a workable compromise for the millions of parents that don't want their sons to catch the gays. If their boy doesn't catch it from a queer scout, it'll ease their fears of queer leaders.
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04-22-2013, 08:45 AM | #29 | |
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Baby steps. I can see this working and I support it as a step in the right direction.
But it's wrong on its face. If the fear is that somebody who is attracted to men might also be attracted to boys, and therefore shouldn't be allowed to be a leader, then why are women allowed to be leaders? Most women are attracted to men. If being attracted to men means you are also attracted to boys, then aren't moms also a huge risk to the organization? It's nonsense. Besides, they have a tough policy that's been in place for years that says that no adults can be alone with a scout unless they are a parent. Following that policy means that nobody has a chance to molest a scout. If there is a concern with having gays in scouts it would be that a gay scout gets to sleep side by side in a 2 man tent with a straight scout. Or even 2 gay scouts together. We probably wouldn't put a 17 year old girl in a tent next to a 17 year old boy without a chaperone. When openly gay scouts are admitted into a troop, I think leaders need to be aware of the situation and pay attention to sleeping arrangements. I'm not sure how to handle that. If there's only one gay scout, it's not fair to make them sleep by themselves. Maybe three in a tent is best. I'm not sure about that. Here is the current policy for youth protection in scouts. Quote:
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04-22-2013, 09:30 AM | #30 |
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For my post above, I did not go into "unforeseen consequences" or "hidden agendas".
The first "unforseen" that came to my mind was a drifting segregation into troops/packs of straight and gay boys, with all the negatives that can generate. The "hiddens" are hidden, but I strongly suspect the the religious organizations their support of BSA will be quite opposed to activities or literature demonstrating that gay (adoptive) parents can be as good role models as straight parents, and how will a boy explain to others and himself that his Dad is not good enough to be a leader or volunteer ? Over the past few days, I've come to the opinion this "new" policy of the BSA reeks of old and new pathways to discrimination, belittling, and harm. |
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