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Old 03-16-2019, 08:31 AM   #4036
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People around here are very polite, and armed.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:02 AM   #4037
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An armed society is a polite society.
Keryx says that.
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Ö We're an armed society. How does that translate to politeness here? ...
The same way nuclear capable nations go to great lengths to avoid assured mutual destruction. The saying refers to a society where most everyone is armed so that would-be violent criminals are either deterred; or, violent criminal actions are stopped before mass casualties are inflicted. It falls along the lines of God created all people equal, Samuel Colt kept them that way.

But that's not important now. What's important is how the concept of a mostly armed society is reflected in our culture by music. There are lessons to be learned, how to act and not to act, from these songs that shape our emotional beings:

I Shot the Sheriff
Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
Janie's Got a Gun
Don't Take Your Guns to Town
Ö etc.


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Old 03-17-2019, 06:38 AM   #4038
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We British are a peaceable and civilised bunch.
We live in a land where debate isnít characterised by ill tempered exchanges.
A land where arguments are never advanced by personal insult or abuse but by intellectual rigour and the marshalling of incontrovertible facts, or demolished by equally rigorous forensic analysis.
The nature of debate is well illustrated by this Twitter exchange between Jon Snow, Channel 4 News presenter, and Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General.

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MP George Eustace this morning on the Sunday Politics South West show:


"Theresa May is an overdried teabag in a Poundland sale."

(Quoted from memory within minutes of the broadcast)

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Old 03-17-2019, 06:43 AM   #4039
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:50 AM   #4040
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MP George Eustace this morning on the Sunday Politics South West show:


"Theresa May is an overdried teabag in a Poundland sale."
I hadn't heard of Mr Eustice but I find this on Wikipedia...

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Charles George Eustice (born 28 September 1971) is a British Conservative Party politician and former public relations executive...
Presumably not a very successful one.


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Old 03-20-2019, 11:03 AM   #4041
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:37 AM   #4042
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...This is going to bring about a bad mindset, you mark my words.

The If-you-so-much-as-look-crossways-at-me-Ima-just-kill-ya-cuz-you-might-have-a-gun-too kinda mindset.

We didn't need a permit for open carry, anyway, but this just seems nuts.

Kicker: We join 12 other like-minded states.
That's certainly a popular thought with many people. But allow me to give another perspective that you might not have considered.

What if having a concealed weapon gives people the security to help people in distress? Maybe a motorist having troubles? Someone having very manageable troubles like a flat tire. Or maybe engine trouble of some sort. Maybe you see that this person is vulnerable in some way and nervous or scared.

You aren't billy bad ass rushing out with a gun to shoot everyone but you have a little security just in case. You can be a little vulnerable yourself to assist without completely compromising your safety.

Or maybe you go somewhere out of the way maybe late at night. You see some guy roughing up a woman and yelling at her. He turns to give you an intimidating look. That same look that tells you 'I'm fucking dangerous, don't get involved here, move along'. But he stares into your eyes and reads your demeanor. That demeanor that says 'I'm not prey mother fucker'.

Or maybe you see a confrontation heating up. A couple of guys are arguing and getting increasingly louder, more angry. And maybe I'm there on the sidelines watching this. Maybe I might ask some really fucking stupid ass question to break their concentration knowing that if I break their concentration they'll likely just calm down. And if they turn on me, I have some security.

"Hey guys, really hate to interrupt here but I have a question for ya. Is there a 7-11 around here? I'm dyin' for a Slurpee"

In these cases that have happened to me, I don't yell or shout, don't pull a pistol out and spin it on my finger, but the people involved know that I'm not afraid of them.

Then the question is, he's obviously not afraid of ME, should I be afraid of him?

It's powerful. Predators are experts at assessing risk. At sensing fear. If you can manage that fear with or without a gat, you're probably going to be in a position to avoid troubles. In some cases help people and be a better witness to events.

"Yes, your Honor, I saw that man punch that lady"

While I am sympathetic to people that think negatively about people having concealed guns, my experience and that of millions of others is completely different.

That's probably why we still have the 2nd amendment. Secretly people know and understand that much of the anti-gun narrative is completely false. Despite all the emotional press about guns, I still like to have a piece. I trust myself.

Here's a link with some citizen defensive gun use. Not quite the same as I've detailed here but similar.

And don't forget my favorite pro-gun bumper sticker.

"I'd rather have a gun in my hand than the cops on the phone"
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