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Old 04-13-2020, 12:10 PM   #511
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:21 PM   #512
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I notice you weren't willing to call me a liar this time. I'm just reporting what I see.
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:32 PM   #513
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I notice you weren't willing to call me a liar this time. I'm just reporting what I see.
You lied up-thread, and with just reporting what I see you're lyin' again.

Thanks for givin' me the opportunity to elaborate.

'nuff said.
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:47 PM   #514
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I stand by both posts.

Though I doubt the flounce will last very long.
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:51 PM   #515
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If you're smoking weed to ease your stress during the coronavirus pandemic, experts say it's time to think twice.

Smoking marijuana, even occasionally, can increase your risk for more severe complications from Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

"What happens to your airways when you smoke cannabis is that it causes some degree of inflammation, very similar to bronchitis, very similar to the type of inflammation that cigarette smoking can cause," said pulmonologist Dr. Albert Rizzo, chief medical officer for the American Lung Association. "Now you have some airway inflammation and you get an infection on top of it. So, yes, your chance of getting more complications is there." ...
~ guess what. oh you'll never ever guess! ~

Tobacco:

As of 2015, 15.1% of US adults were smokers.

In available data, 1.3% of people testing positive for COVID-19 were smokers.

WHAT?

5.2% of these were both hospitalized and admitted to an ICUs.
20% of ex-smokers testing positive were admitted to ICUs.

FUCK ME IF IT MIGHT TURN OUT SMOKING IS A COVID PREVENTATIVE.

Do you think they'll tell people that?

~ however, that is early data ~ but wait there's more! ~

Pre-print science: Level of IL-6 predicts respiratory failure in hospitalized symptomatic COVID-19 patients

Dang. So, what inhibits IL-6?

Self-reported lifetime marijuana use and interleukin-6 levels in middle-aged African Americans

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The current findings extend previous cellular and biochemical literature, which identifies an inverse association between IL-6 and marijuana use. Examining this relationship in the psychological and behavioral literature could be informative to the development of clinical interventions for inflammatory diseases.
Now, I'm not saying. I'm really not. This is on the order of conspiracy theory. It's just a notion. Still, if it turns out weed is a preventative...

...do you think they'll tell people that?
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:06 PM   #516
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Seems unlikely...
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:14 PM   #517
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Maybe, if someone (or group) makes a sufficient donation to the American Lung Association.
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:51 PM   #518
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Henry, it's fine. We shall have the debate whether you care to participate or not. It will be more fun if you participate.

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12,911 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 8, 2020
Four days later (this is as of yesterday)

22,020 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 12, 2020

Source: Johns Hopkins
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Old 04-13-2020, 01:53 PM   #519
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related: right now mortality rate in Europe is 3x higher than US, per case. don't know why that is
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Old 04-13-2020, 02:10 PM   #520
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related: right now mortality rate in Europe is 3x higher than US, per case. don't know why that is
That might be because the outbreak is further along in many parts of Europe - so they have had longer for individual outcomes to play out
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Old 04-13-2020, 02:14 PM   #521
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That's gotta be it, or most of it - we see how much 4 days difference makes
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Old 04-13-2020, 03:54 PM   #522
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related: right now mortality rate in Europe is 3x higher than US, per case. don't know why that is
Must be because they smoke less marijuana.

Think we should tell them?
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Old 04-13-2020, 04:16 PM   #523
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I'm sure that's not it even though I desperately want to suit the facts to my agenda
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Old 04-13-2020, 04:51 PM   #524
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As far as only 1.3% of U.S. coronavirus patients being smokers, I wonder how that breaks out once you control for age? Smoking always has been a young person's game, if only because they're more likely to die from cancer and other stuff before they have a chance to get terribly old.
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Old 04-13-2020, 04:54 PM   #525
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related: right now mortality rate in Europe is 3x higher than US, per case. don't know why that is
Overwhelmed hospitals are surely part of the equation. In Italy things got so bad they issued a "no one over age 60 gets treatment" order. Not sure if it's still in place.
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