the girl with x-ray vision

[storm]

Have seen this girl on british tv and she is astounding the sceptics.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/...henomenon.html


Strange how her mother would have been pregnant near and just after the Chernobyl explosion

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'

Issac Asimov

[FileNotFound]

Thats a Russian newspaper.

Don't believe a word of it.

Seriously.

Russian media has ZERO validlity.

[novice]

Yesterday various Australian media sources reported this story as factual evening news I shit you not. Today I sold my Television.
Well I woulda had effn' I didn't use it for dvd porn.
Pravda=horseshit and that's taking it easy on horseshit.

[wolf]

One of the first Russian Proverbs I learned ... (okay second. the first was yahitza kuritzu ni uchat) ... was

"Pravda ni Izvestia, Izvestia ni Pravda."

Of course, it looks cooler in cyrillic characters.

But it's a play on words regarding the two newspapers.

Translation is "In the Truth there is no Information, In the Information, there is no Truth."

[FileNotFound]

Here is the truth about Russian media.

Before the fall of communism, all the media reported falsified data about the phoenomenal progress of the USSR, the troubles that the western world is experiencing and how much better off we are. (Wheat production up 400%. Milk production up 360%. Bread/person up 500%. But we're still hungy and the shelves in stores still empty..go figure)

After the fall of communism all the media began to report falsified data about the phoenomenal progess of the USSR, the problems of the USSR being the fault of the western world, how the western world is still shit despite the fact they they're richer. "They have have money, but they don't have souls, friends, humanity nor truth" (I kid you not). In fact my parents hear shit like this from my grandparents when they try to talk to them. "Aww, son, you're becoming just like an American..so heartless..."

Moreover, while communism kept Russia fairly isolated from the bullshit science, with the exception of "medical balsam" from china, which people would buy in china for a relative value of 1c a pack and sell for $50 in Russia. Chinese herbal 'medicine' sold like hotcakes.

Now Russian newspapers and valid media sources report bullshit like pills that cure cancer and aids, cure hang overs, prevent alcoholism, STDs, erection, multiple male orgasms, allergies, aids, etc. There are plenty of people who claim to be able to cure all sort of diseases and the like. Worse yet, plenty of people, in fact I dare say the MAJORITY belive it.

There is also a very fast spreading religious fanaticism. Plenty of missions going to Russia in order to "save" the country from the mafia though Jesus. (In fact, my grandfather who has always hated the church, the goverment, and jews(cause umm they were all in the goverment and he was unable to progress in his military career because he wasn't jewish) has now found a deep religious belief. In fact he's trying to spread it on me. Good luck there, I might as well be the antichrist)

Of course they also have plenty of horror stories, computer radiation, cell phone radiation, radiation from tv and radio antenas (the RECIEVERS), radiation from microwave ovens (food after microwave is TOXIC and causes cancer), I could go on..


The point is nothing in Russia has any truth to it. People are getting brainwashed now worse than before. It's insane.

News get reported with things like "Famous scientiests from a renowened German, English and American Universities report:" What scientists, what university...nobody knows.

[Undertoad]

Well, this will hijack the thread like nothing else, but...

...and it's probably politically incorrect, and a frightening question to ponder, but...

FNF, is the Russian society permanently hobbled by the loss of the type of people that Stalin went after? Intellectuals, universities, productive and successful marketers?

More and more, I think that the US is not extra-successful because of its natural resources, or even its tendency towards economic freedom; but it's because of the kind of people who have always come here: risk-takers, freedom fighters, people seeking a better way, smart people trying to be productive, people getting out from under crippling heavy government, who will make for themselves. That doesn't represent all the people who have come here, but it's a good number of them.

What happens when part of Stalin's purge is getting rid of those types because they threaten the state? 4-5 generations later, can the society find and reward those kinds of people so it can become productive again?

[lumberjim]

I think you've got it, tony. i have had this same conversation with our Kenyan salesman. He often refers to D.A.'s ( Dumb Americans). I can;t argue most of the time, because when he says it, he;s usually right. I do, however, make it a point to point out to him that there have GOT to be far more Dumb Africans per capita. I tell him that he must have been the cream of the crop over in Kenya to be able to come here and succeed. And he's a car salesman. In his defense, he's been published several times in the Kenya news ( with a little grammar help and proof reading from me) but at least he can tell the difference between a semi colon and an apostrophe.

What happens when part of Stalin's purge is getting rid of those types because they threaten the state? 4-5 generations later, can the society find and reward those kinds of people so it can become productive again?

how about an affirmative action policy for smarty pantses? you'd have to score over 135 on your IQ to qualify, and you'd get free college or something like that from the united genius college fund.

[Undertoad]

Well that's another thing: he gets to complain about the high number of D.A.s, ONLY because in a country this productive, even the total morons can accumulate enough wealth to drive a BAMFAC (Big Ass Mother Fuckin' American Car).

[FileNotFound]

Undertoad, in a sense, not as much as by all the people that have left Russia.

I would say that about 30% of university grads in Russia leave the country within 10 years.

My parents left and got green cards based on their scientific achievments and that much of it delt with chemical weapons. Both have PhDs and my father has 3 published books and over 100 articles, most in US journals.

Pretty much everyone my parents knew in college is no longer in Russia. So far they have 3 friends in US, 2 in UK, 1 in France, 1 in Germany, 3 in Australia and 2 in Canada.

It's hard for me to say if Stalin had a huge effect on Russia. I know he didn't have 'much' effect on our family, but only because my family fled to Siberia.

After the communists took over, my mothers side of the family decieded to flee to asia, fairly sure we had some friends there or something. Didn't quite make it because my great grandmother was pregnant and ended up giving birth in Siberia thus got stuck there. They wanted to flee because my great grandmother was working for the royals in some form and felt that they'd be executed like many others if caught, to make it worse my great grandfather owned a jewlery store and that alone classified them as "kulaks" (as in the wealthy "haves" who do not share with the working man). So one night they just packed up whatever small and most expensive jewlery they had and ran for it.

In siberia they purchased a big house assuming that they'd be safe from the communists. When ww2 came so did the communists. They raided the house, took what they could find (food, money, clothing), scared my grandfather who was only several years old at the time so much that he still studders. They took away the large house because it was "too large for a family" forcing them to live in a much smaller house with poor heating.

As far as I know the war claimed about 3 lives from my mother side. One was a tank mechanic, he went missing (there were rumors of him trying to join the Germans as he prefered them to the communists, not sure which side he died on or if he died at all), one was a simple soldier and was shot. The other got shot by the Russian soldiers when he got in an argument about them comming by their house yet again to 'redistribute' food.

My father's side is less detailed, I do not know anything about their history before the communists came; all I know is that my greatgrand father was a truck driver for the army and delived supplies to the front lines. While he didn't die in the war, he had a bullet in his chest that the doctors were not able to remove, he died in his 60s due to it(it was very close to the heart and was causing some swelling or something).

Thats that as far as communism and my family. Although, I think it's worth mentioning that while in Russia, my parents, both with PhDs and "precitigious" jobs in the science field could not put enough food on the table to feed themselves and me, nor could they buy colothing or food. Socks, pants, underwear, was all getting torn and stiched back together. A scientist would make about 300 rubels a week while a bus driver would make 100/day and then another 200/day because he'd keep the money from the fares.

Oh and on treatment of women in the workplace, my mother was flat out told by her 53 year old manager that she'd not able able to advance in her field unless she slept with him, she never did advance. But then we left Russia not too long after so screw that. (Oh and that same manager then began to use the lab, and the staff to produce some very toxic chemicals for some company in Turkey)

What I'm trying to say is that sure Stalin may have been an impact, but even without him, the country was fucked.

[storm]

This girl has done the europeon media tour and has yet to be proved wrong. So what that Pravda was the first to pick up on the story ( after all she is russian ). Some people might not consider the russian media to be font of all knowledge but what about the scores of western europeon news agencies that still retain a open mind. It seems this thread has been hijacked as a diatribe against anything pro russian or anti american

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.

Mark Twain

[wolf]

In the sixties or seventies the Soviets paraded around a psychic who could sense colors of pieces of paper she handled, and another who could telekinetically knock a compass off north.

I remember seeing both of them on TV.

If the new millenium x-ray chick is any good, bring on James Randi ...

[storm]

Aren't we all looking for something we can't explain as proof there is something deeper then expiring.



quote

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)




ps
loved your homepage, I've got a plastic knife, lets find some vegatable apart from LS

[Happy Monkey]

Originally posted by wolf
If the new millenium x-ray chick is any good, bring on James Randi ...

He hasn't heard enough to make any statements, but he has some questions.

[storm]

or should that be vegetable

"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way." -- Mark Twain

[Happy Monkey]

And here's a similar story (middle of the page) from a while back. This girl claimed x-ray vision in the superman style, rather than the bone diagnostic style, though.