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Joe Faux · 07-09-2004, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Catwoman

I am just trying to push boundaries. Sorry if people can't cope with this level of discussion. Lets get back to safe ground quick.

Ouch.

I'm not emotional regarding this issue. Rather, I'm stating that this crime be calculated the same across the board regardless of genders involved.

Existing social paradigms do hold the genders in different respect. This is often reflected in the sentencing. People find it hard to accept a woman is capable of being the aggressor and offer her built-in excuses such as "love" or "passion". If the tables were turned and a man stated that he “loved” his victim, the public would have called for a hanging. Yet, when the accused is a woman, society assumes that some altruistic reason transcended the age difference. Her gender alone will automatically and wrongfully mitigate the severity of the crime. (By the way I wonder what the child's parents think.)

The teacher involved in this crime willfully and knowingly acted against the law to satisfy her sexual desires. Period. This cannot be tolerated by the legal system and she should be measured by the same legal tools as any other individual that commits this crime.

The only boundary to explore would be the dissolution of the archaic belief that women should be coddled and protected from themselves. Maintaining the belief that women are incapable such acts is outdated to say the very least. Grown women deserve the credit of being treated like adults.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-09-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Same crime if the victim is touched by a hand, versus harshly sodomized?

Same crime if the predator/victim are both men? Both women?

I think sometimes the differences matter.

That's where sentencing comes into play. The judge takes(should?) that into consideration, but no matter what kind of soap opera comes with it, it's still the same crime. :p

wolf · 07-13-2004, 01:16 PM

In case you'd been wondering what Mary Kay LeTorneau's been up to ...

It seems as though the no contact order remains in place, and the kid is quite focused on violating it.

Beestie · 07-13-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

It seems as though the no contact order remains in place, and the kid is quite focused on violating it.

The kid is 21 now. How can the court forbid them to see each other?

wolf · 07-13-2004, 01:27 PM

Courts frequently forbid adults to have contact .

PFAs require no contact, as do many probation/parole orders, as is the case here.

Troubleshooter · 07-13-2004, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Courts frequently forbid adults to have contact .

PFAs require no contact, as do many probation/parole orders, as is the case here.

The thing that I have to wonder is whether the court has justice in mind or simply punitive protocols? They may genuinely be for each other and I think that they should be able to find out now that both parties are, legally at least, adult.

I think that an in pertuitum decision of this nature is out of bounds.

lookout123 · 11-30-2004, 11:53 PM

This story is back. Do you think this chick is nuts? she is hoping a jury thinks she is.

ya gotta click here

wolf · 11-30-2004, 11:57 PM

Despite the amount of press they generate, insanity defenses are not usually successful.

Without searching, I seem to recall that they work less than 2% of the time as a criminal defense.

With or without twinkie consumption as a factor.

wolf · 12-01-2004, 12:01 AM

With searching it seems that insanity defenses are presented in only about 0.9% of criminal cases (9 out of 1000, to save you the math), and that it is successful in less than 20% of those cases (1.8/1000).

lookout123 · 12-01-2004, 12:04 AM

ya gotta give them props for trying though.

404Error · 12-01-2004, 12:25 AM

She's not nuts, she's a pedophile. This girl is nuts!

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snip ~ BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- A 29-year-old woman pleaded not guilty Tuesday to charges that she had a sexual relationship with an 8-year-old boy who was her daughter's playmate.

Tammy Imre, a part-time receptionist, is charged with first-degree sexual assault, fourth-degree sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor. She remains held on a $250,000 bond.

If convicted, Imre could serve more than 20 years in prison. She requested a trial by jury.

According to the arrest affidavit, Imre told investigators she considered the relationship "like a fantasy and she was the girlfriend and he was the boyfriend and that someday they could end up together in a relationship."

wolf · 12-01-2004, 12:57 AM

Prepubescent boy = pedophila

Adolescent boy = hebephilia

Or pederasty.

Joe Faux · 12-02-2004, 11:28 PM

Why do I feel we're seeing more of these crimes?

Are the predators becoming bolder as the shame factor reduces?
Am I just paying more attention now that I'm older?
Is it now socially or financially more acceptable to report such crimes?

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp...0&nav=3YeXT0ZE
http://www.nbc5.com/education/390746...94&dppid=65172
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/20425.htm

russotto · 12-03-2004, 07:24 PM

And here I thought hebephilia was the opposite of anti-semitism.

Troubleshooter · 12-04-2004, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by russotto

And here I thought hebephilia was the opposite of anti-semitism.

07-13-2004, 01:16 PM	#123
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	In case you'd been wondering what Mary Kay LeTorneau's been up to ... It seems as though the no contact order remains in place, and the kid is quite focused on violating it. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-13-2004, 01:27 PM	#125
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Courts frequently forbid adults to have contact . PFAs require no contact, as do many probation/parole orders, as is the case here. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-30-2004, 11:53 PM	#127
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	This story is back. Do you think this chick is nuts? she is hoping a jury thinks she is. ya gotta click here __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-30-2004, 11:57 PM	#128
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Despite the amount of press they generate, insanity defenses are not usually successful. Without searching, I seem to recall that they work less than 2% of the time as a criminal defense. With or without twinkie consumption as a factor. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-01-2004, 12:01 AM	#129
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	With searching it seems that insanity defenses are presented in only about 0.9% of criminal cases (9 out of 1000, to save you the math), and that it is successful in less than 20% of those cases (1.8/1000). __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-01-2004, 12:04 AM	#130
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	ya gotta give them props for trying though. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

12-01-2004, 12:57 AM	#132
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Prepubescent boy = pedophila Adolescent boy = hebephilia Or pederasty. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-02-2004, 11:28 PM	#133
Joe Faux Pithy Euphemist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 19	Why do I feel we're seeing more of these crimes? Are the predators becoming bolder as the shame factor reduces? Am I just paying more attention now that I'm older? Is it now socially or financially more acceptable to report such crimes? http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp...0&nav=3YeXT0ZE http://www.nbc5.com/education/390746...94&dppid=65172 http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/20425.htm __________________ - Joe Faux

12-03-2004, 07:24 PM	#134
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	And here I thought hebephilia was the opposite of anti-semitism.

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