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Old 02-13-2002, 11:21 PM   #31
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I have to agree.

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Old 02-14-2002, 12:18 AM   #32
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Jen you tool, he included the footnote. I can't believe you missed that, you assface.
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Old 02-14-2002, 01:02 AM   #33
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Why do the Europeans get all the cool cars?

This car is fine... why do the Europeans get all the good ones?

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Old 02-14-2002, 07:23 AM   #34
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Re: Why do the Europeans get all the cool cars?

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why do the Europeans get all the good ones?
I don't know. With a lower average GNP/head (compared to the US), and gas/petrol being around $5/gallon, it's not like we can truly enjoy those cars.

Germany is an exception, as the 'car culture' there emphasizes cars as a status symbol.


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Old 02-14-2002, 07:41 AM   #35
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I have to agree.

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I had a neighbor that drove one of these a while back. Kinda funny looking, but extremely fast. Though I did have a boss at the computer lab that drove a Camaro SS he had souped up (he owned a garage when he lived in Hawaii he used to tell me), and it was quick enough to beat one of these in any form.
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:11 PM   #36
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i saw the footnote david
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Old 02-14-2002, 10:46 PM   #37
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Re: Why do the Europeans get all the cool cars?

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This car is fine... why do the Europeans get all the good ones?
Because their corporate executives 30 and 15 years ago possessed and used driver's licenses? Not a joke. Quite serious. When US cars were, across the board, no exemption, in 1979, the worst cars in the western world, no top American auto executive could drive nor saw any reason why he should drive.

This from a book by Paul H Weaver:
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When I went to Dearborn, it worried me that I knew nothing about cars - that I didn't even own one. Wouldn't this be a handicap to a rising young auto executive, I wondered? The answer was no. People at world headquarters almost never talked about cars. Even the many colleagues who had risen through the ranks of NAAO [North American Automotive Operations] and therefore had to know a lot about automobiles didn't show it. No one expresses any enthusiasm for cars that I ever detected. ... What did interest my colleagues at Ford ... was the company's position in the auto industry. ... It often seemed that my colleagues would bear any burden or incur any risk than see a competitor gain the tiniest advantage. Issues like the character and quality of our products, or how customers used and felt about them, struck few sparks by comparison.
Classic symptoms of an MBA dominated company.

Ford has only just recently eliminated the last of the MBA, pre 1981, cars. They still use many pre-1979 engines - probably one reason for violent arguements between Nasser and Ford. But to have world class products requires management for decades that comes from where the work gets done. You find that in some European car companies.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:33 PM   #38
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It's interesting that some of the links in this thread are still alive. But how many of the Posters are still here?
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:08 PM   #39
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