Mar 22, 2009: EDAR - Page 2

monster · 03-22-2009, 10:32 PM

pop-up requires no assembly other than "undo velcrose"

classicman · 03-22-2009, 10:57 PM

I do like that it keeps the base of the unit about 6" off the ground that is different than your typical tent - $500 worth

xoxoxoBruce · 03-22-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

the fucking cock smoker in the picture should have his kneecaps broken.

for shame! and they tout his charitable works.....i wonder how much he made off the charity of people sympathetic to 'the children' in his previous ventures.

here's a scumbag we can all hate

under $500 indeed

Whoa, where did that come from? What makes you think he made anything off those charities? Fill us in.

SPUCK · 03-23-2009, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

"...insert for to pipe B1a to slot G37 then to hook grommet to for bungee attach pipe C1b to ground. For to enjoy"

glatt · 03-23-2009, 08:42 AM

The best analogy for one of these things is a shopping cart. This is basically a shopping cart that unfolds into a tent. The cost isn't just in the canvas tent, it's in the convertible cart.

Just by way of example, the smallest folding Magliner hand truck costs $299 in my 2002 Grainger catalog. The cheapest non folding wire mail room cart costs $268 in the same catalog. They go up to $400 when you get them with the good wheels. If you are just buying the individual medium duty swivel locking caster wheels, you'll pay about $20 each. So it's about $80 just for the wheels. Remember that this thing is intended to be pushed all over the city by homeless dudes. It's got to be durable. It's intended to hold lots of empty bottles and cans for scroungers. Not to mention personal belongings. It's got to be durable, otherwise there is no point. A cheap Walmart tent will break its zipper after a season or two of light use. This thing will be used every day for months, at a minimum.

$500 seems like a lot of money, but the Army would design this same tent for $50,000.

Look at that frame.

Shawnee123 · 03-23-2009, 08:44 AM

I think one of the big differences between the EDAR and a Walmart tent is that the EDAR is elevated off the ground. There must be some advantage to not having your ass lying directly on the, in many cases, freezing cold hard ground.

glatt · 03-23-2009, 09:06 AM

It's nice to be off the ground when it is wet and/or cold. Plus, creepy crawly things are less likely to come inside when you are off the ground.

Shawnee123 · 03-23-2009, 09:07 AM

See, I couldn't be homeless because of creepy crawlies. Fearless except for creepy crawlies. :shudder:

Sundae · 03-23-2009, 09:10 AM

WOW. Some very harsh Merkin opinions here.
Two countries divided by a gulf of immense proportions.

Yes, $500 is a LOT.
But for goodness sake, these are PEOPLE we are talking about. Sentient cratures? You know? Dogs & whales & cows & all that shite... No, people. Your States don't like them killed by abortion, but is happy for them to die of hypothermia?

Sheesh.
Get a school to sponsor a hobo.
Buy them a $500 shelter. Keep them in the drug of their choice. After all, humans are so important. Oh, I forgot, some of your States like to kill them too.

PS - we're rubbish re the homeless too, so I'm not trying to take the moral highground. But at least we have the Big Issue

classicman · 03-23-2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

the EDAR is elevated off the ground.

eh hem - see post #17

great minds think alike

lumberjim · 03-23-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

WOW. Some very harsh Merkin opinions here.
Two countries divided by a gulf of immense proportions.

Yes, $500 is a LOT.
But for goodness sake, these are PEOPLE we are talking about. Sentient cratures? You know? Dogs & whales & cows & all that shite... No, people. Your States don't like them killed by abortion, but is happy for them to die of hypothermia?

Sheesh.
Get a school to sponsor a hobo.
Buy them a $500 shelter. Keep them in the drug of their choice. After all, humans are so important. Oh, I forgot, some of your States like to kill them too.

PS - we're rubbish re the homeless too, so I'm not trying to take the moral highground. But at least we have the Big Issue

the issue i have with it is not the idea of providing tents....my issue is that there is clearly $450 of profit margin in each tent for the jerkoff in the suit and the people he has to bribe to get this through.

Shawnee123 · 03-23-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

eh hem - see post #17

great minds think alike

Ooops, pardon my tail, um, ,post.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-23-2009, 09:52 AM

Wait a minute, he's not making $450, he's not making anything. He's paying the $500 and giving them away. Why do you have a problem with Peter Samuelson, Jim???

lumberjim · 03-23-2009, 10:00 AM

he's paying the $500?

personally?

Trilby · 03-23-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

...But for goodness sake, these are PEOPLE we are talking about. Sentient cratures? You know? Dogs & whales & cows & all that shite... No, people. Your States don't like them killed by abortion, but is happy for them to die of hypothermia?

Now you're on the trolley

03-22-2009, 10:32 PM	#16
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	pop-up requires no assembly other than "undo velcrose" __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-23-2009, 08:42 AM	#20
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The best analogy for one of these things is a shopping cart. This is basically a shopping cart that unfolds into a tent. The cost isn't just in the canvas tent, it's in the convertible cart. Just by way of example, the smallest folding Magliner hand truck costs $299 in my 2002 Grainger catalog. The cheapest non folding wire mail room cart costs $268 in the same catalog. They go up to $400 when you get them with the good wheels. If you are just buying the individual medium duty swivel locking caster wheels, you'll pay about $20 each. So it's about $80 just for the wheels. Remember that this thing is intended to be pushed all over the city by homeless dudes. It's got to be durable. It's intended to hold lots of empty bottles and cans for scroungers. Not to mention personal belongings. It's got to be durable, otherwise there is no point. A cheap Walmart tent will break its zipper after a season or two of light use. This thing will be used every day for months, at a minimum. $500 seems like a lot of money, but the Army would design this same tent for $50,000. Look at that frame. Attached Images

03-23-2009, 08:44 AM	#21
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I think one of the big differences between the EDAR and a Walmart tent is that the EDAR is elevated off the ground. There must be some advantage to not having your ass lying directly on the, in many cases, freezing cold hard ground. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby Last edited by Shawnee123; 03-23-2009 at 08:46 AM. Reason: clarity

03-23-2009, 09:07 AM	#23
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	See, I couldn't be homeless because of creepy crawlies. Fearless except for creepy crawlies. :shudder: __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-23-2009, 09:10 AM	#24
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	WOW. Some very harsh Merkin opinions here. Two countries divided by a gulf of immense proportions. Yes, $500 is a LOT. But for goodness sake, these are PEOPLE we are talking about. Sentient cratures? You know? Dogs & whales & cows & all that shite... No, people. Your States don't like them killed by abortion, but is happy for them to die of hypothermia? Sheesh. Get a school to sponsor a hobo. Buy them a $500 shelter. Keep them in the drug of their choice. After all, humans are so important. Oh, I forgot, some of your States like to kill them too. PS - we're rubbish re the homeless too, so I'm not trying to take the moral highground. But at least we have the Big Issue __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

03-22-2009, 10:57 PM	#17
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I do like that it keeps the base of the unit about 6" off the ground that is different than your typical tent - $500 worth __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-23-2009, 09:06 AM	#22
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	It's nice to be off the ground when it is wet and/or cold. Plus, creepy crawly things are less likely to come inside when you are off the ground.

03-23-2009, 09:52 AM	#28
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Wait a minute, he's not making $450, he's not making anything. He's paying the $500 and giving them away. Why do you have a problem with Peter Samuelson, Jim??? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-23-2009, 10:00 AM	#29
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	he's paying the $500? personally? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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