Abu Ghraib since the Americans left

Undertoad · 09-10-2006, 02:12 PM

Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib

(sarcasm on)Oh good, we are leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.(sarcasm off)

The good news: nobody is having panties put on their head any more.

The bad news: it's hot irons now.

The good news: International Red Cross doesn't have anything bad to say about it.

The bad news: They're not allowed in.

9th Engineer · 09-10-2006, 03:19 PM

Lets give the family members of the prisoners the names and addresses of those who forced the early handover. Now we just wait for the groups involved to wash their hands of the whole deal and pat themselves on the back for preventing another incident of US imperialism. Makes me want to puke.

footfootfoot · 09-10-2006, 09:24 PM

The problem with monday morning quarterbacking is that it is always easy to see when to get the hell out of Dodge.

What do you do when the borders are clsoed and you can't move?

It's all fucked. fucky fucky fucky fucked.

fucked.

Elspode · 09-10-2006, 11:06 PM

So, its alright if Iraqis torture Iraqis? Um...isn't that one of the reasons that we went there in the first place? To stop that shit? Well, that and all those WMDs. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about those anymore.

Aliantha · 09-10-2006, 11:07 PM

Hmmmm...so the west went in, blew up a fair bit of the landscape and now they've left and nothing has changed? How surprising!

9th Engineer · 09-10-2006, 11:35 PM

Yup, they're determined to keep torturing and killing each other. Also a big suprise!

Elspode · 09-11-2006, 01:15 PM

Yeah, but the winner then gets to decide who to send to torture and kill everyone else all over the world. Plenty of fun for everyone.

09-11-2006, 01:37 PM

Not our problem.

headsplice · 09-11-2006, 02:12 PM

You mean, except for the fact that we're responsible, right?

9th Engineer · 09-11-2006, 02:18 PM

And how do you fathom that? They inflamatory groups use religeon more than policy examples. They were bombing our assets back when most of the Arab world was our ally against the Soviets.

headsplice · 09-11-2006, 02:38 PM

Let's see...we invaded, and then dismantled the social and economic structures preventing the various sects from doing exactly this. And then, just because, we didn't replace the structures that prevented the sects from this kind of behavior.
When you were a kid, and you broke someone else's toys, weren't you required to somehow make amends? Well guess what? We broke a country, and now we're responsible.

Spexxvet · 09-11-2006, 02:39 PM

"meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

At least it's not Americans doing it.
Is it right? No.
.Could we prevent it? Maybe by running their prisons for eternity, but that's not our job.
Did we start it? No, we gave the Iraqis a short repreive (naked human pyramids, threatening dogs, waterboarding notwithstanding), and now it's back to good old Sharia.
Will there be reprisals against Americans for this? There better fucking not be.

Hippikos · 09-11-2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib

(sarcasm on)Oh good, we are leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.(sarcasm off)

The good news: nobody is having panties put on their head any more.

The bad news: it's hot irons now.

The good news: International Red Cross doesn't have anything bad to say about it.

The bad news: They're not allowed in.

And your point is? What they do, we can do better?

Undertoad · 09-11-2006, 03:42 PM

I have no idea. I can't make any sense of it.

warch · 09-11-2006, 04:01 PM

I dunno either. I still like to think we invaders are more good guy than bad guy. Perhaps it helps our cause's pr that bad guys are really really really bad. But still, dead is dead. One man's overzealous naked interrogation is another man's ethnic cleansing.

09-10-2006, 02:12 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Abu Ghraib since the Americans left Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib (sarcasm on)Oh good, we are leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.(sarcasm off) The good news: nobody is having panties put on their head any more. The bad news: it's hot irons now. The good news: International Red Cross doesn't have anything bad to say about it. The bad news: They're not allowed in.

09-10-2006, 03:19 PM	#2
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Lets give the family members of the prisoners the names and addresses of those who forced the early handover. Now we just wait for the groups involved to wash their hands of the whole deal and pat themselves on the back for preventing another incident of US imperialism. Makes me want to puke. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-10-2006, 09:24 PM	#3
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	The problem with monday morning quarterbacking is that it is always easy to see when to get the hell out of Dodge. What do you do when the borders are clsoed and you can't move? It's all fucked. fucky fucky fucky fucked. fucked. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

09-10-2006, 11:06 PM	#4
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	So, its alright if Iraqis torture Iraqis? Um...isn't that one of the reasons that we went there in the first place? To stop that shit? Well, that and all those WMDs. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about those anymore. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

09-10-2006, 11:07 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Hmmmm...so the west went in, blew up a fair bit of the landscape and now they've left and nothing has changed? How surprising! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

09-10-2006, 11:35 PM	#6
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Yup, they're determined to keep torturing and killing each other. Also a big suprise! __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-11-2006, 01:15 PM	#7
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Yeah, but the winner then gets to decide who to send to torture and kill everyone else all over the world. Plenty of fun for everyone. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

09-11-2006, 01:37 PM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Not our problem.

09-11-2006, 02:12 PM	#9
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	You mean, except for the fact that we're responsible, right? __________________ Don't Panic

09-11-2006, 02:18 PM	#10
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	And how do you fathom that? They inflamatory groups use religeon more than policy examples. They were bombing our assets back when most of the Arab world was our ally against the Soviets. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-11-2006, 02:38 PM	#11
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	Let's see...we invaded, and then dismantled the social and economic structures preventing the various sects from doing exactly this. And then, just because, we didn't replace the structures that prevented the sects from this kind of behavior. When you were a kid, and you broke someone else's toys, weren't you required to somehow make amends? Well guess what? We broke a country, and now we're responsible. __________________ Don't Panic

09-11-2006, 02:39 PM	#12
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	"meet the new boss, same as the old boss". At least it's not Americans doing it. Is it right? No. .Could we prevent it? Maybe by running their prisons for eternity, but that's not our job. Did we start it? No, we gave the Iraqis a short repreive (naked human pyramids, threatening dogs, waterboarding notwithstanding), and now it's back to good old Sharia. Will there be reprisals against Americans for this? There better fucking not be. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

09-11-2006, 03:42 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I have no idea. I can't make any sense of it.

09-11-2006, 04:01 PM	#15
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I dunno either. I still like to think we invaders are more good guy than bad guy. Perhaps it helps our cause's pr that bad guys are really really really bad. But still, dead is dead. One man's overzealous naked interrogation is another man's ethnic cleansing.

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