Government Shut Down

[Lamplighter]

Now that the world has seen that Henry Quirk was right all along,
we can look foreward to February 7th, 2014.

Yesterday, when the Senate passed it's Bill to end this shutdown and debt ceiling fiasco,
Harry Reid made gave a short speech trending towards conciliation and optimism.
Not so for the Senate Minority Leader...

Senator Mitch McConnell's "conciliation" speech drew a bright new red line on the floor.
The GOP will begin it's "conversation" in the super-committee at
last March's $986 billion sequester (aka the Budget Control Act (BCA).
It will be the new Pavlovian war cry of the GOP.
In other words, Obamacare (ACA) becomes just one ribbon on the GOP's BCA battle flag.



Here is a link to the current effect of sequestration by state...

The Texas Tribune
Ryan Murphy
2/26/13

Interactive: Sequester Cuts by State

<snip>
Using the data made available for every state plus the District of Columbia
(yes, we opened and collected numbers from all 51 PDFs),
we have prepared an interactive that makes it easy to compare the White House's numbers for each state. Select a sequester cut from the drop-down to view a different chart.

[henry quirk]

HA!

[henry quirk]

Here's why...

Because it is manifestly 'unfair' I can fend for myself when so many cannot.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

How sad, then (for the incapable), that I just have to say 'NO'.

[Undertoad]

How strange that you would use English to communicate that. Shouldn't you be making up a new language, rather than participate in something that the entire culture has developed over a period of many centuries of deep cooperation, a tie that binds us together so strongly?

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

HA!

I thought you might fall for that... so predictable

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Here's why...

Because it is manifestly 'unfair' I can fend for myself when so many cannot.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

How sad, then (for the incapable), that I just have to say 'NO'.

Don't want to participate? Move to the wilderness. Don't participate in any economic activity. Don't rely on emergency services, state-funded roads, or any of a number of things. You can so no, but you're just not willing to do so effectively.

Society has a cost and that cost is cooperation and mutual support. A lot of the monetary support is misapplied and a lot of our representatives and employees don't behave as I'd like, but the benefits are greater to me than the cost of cutting myself off from all of it.

[henry quirk]

Same horseshit as always...a little originality would be nice.

*sigh*

In reverse order...


"Don't participate in any economic activity."

Conflating voluntary transactions (I buy 'this' over 'here' instead of 'that' over 'there', or choose to do without) with theft (gimme that or I'll jail you) is dumb.

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"Don't rely on emergency services"

I don't.

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"state-funded roads"

That I pay for by way of state sales taxes...why would I not use what I've paid for?

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"Society has a cost and that cost is cooperation and mutual support."

Society is nuthin' but a word for a buncha folks living in close proximity to one another and not killing each other.

It becomes 'jail' when communitarians (Left and Right) decide that the one owes the many sumthin' more than not stealing and not killing.

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"...the benefits are greater to me than the cost of cutting myself off from all of it."

Then mire yourself up to your neck in it.

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"so predictable"

What's predictable is that you'd try to make a lame joke at my expense.

I laugh at your lack of novelty, not the joke.

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"How strange that you would use English to communicate that. Shouldn't you be making up a new language, rather than participate in something that the entire culture has developed over a period of many centuries of deep cooperation, a tie that binds us together so strongly?"

The day some motherfucker with the big stick tries to tax me for using English is the day I might just do that.

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So stupid (all of you, for missing [or, being incapable of comprehending] the point of anything I've written in this thread [and others]).

No wonder the lot of you crave being governed.


Who's next?

[Lamplighter]

So stupid (all of you, for missing [or, being incapable of comprehending]
the point of anything I've written in this thread [and others]).

HQ, you're kidding yourself. People here do comprehend what you are writing.

Maybe you are the one missing it ... that some/I see your postings
as naive or simplistic or implausible or callow or silly, or maybe just sort of "stupid".

Next.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Same horseshit as always...a little originality would be nice.

It's only horseshit because your brain simplifies everything to fit your biases.

You do a pretty good job parroting the Libertarian handbook, but that doesn't make you any smarter than a bible thumper.

I'm done trying to engage with fuckwits. To say you are TMR would be optimistic, but I'll leave it there.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

HQ, you're kidding yourself. People here do comprehend what you are writing.

Maybe you are the one missing it ... that some/I see your postings
as naive or simplistic or implausible or callow or silly, or maybe just sort of "stupid".

Next.

His user picture is of a caveman. Fits pretty good. I'd like to see him actually try to survive in the individualistic world he espouses.

[henry quirk]

"I'd like to see him actually try to survive in the individualistic world he espouses."

I think I'd do pretty well.

How do I 'know'?

Been there and done that.

I could regale you with details but -- pffftt! -- you wouldn't believe me, I can't (in a tangible fashion, by way of the net) prove anything, and you aren't worth the trouble anyway.

[glatt]

I'd actually be interested to hear what you have to say. I love hearing people's experiences.

[henry quirk]

"People here do comprehend what you are writing"

No, 'they' don't.

*shrug*

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"...that some/I see your posting as naive or simplistic or implausible or callow or silly, or maybe just sort of "stupid"."

Your opinion (which I get): you're welcome to it.

[henry quirk]

"the Libertarian handbook"

Not a libertarian: too many rules.

[henry quirk]

Look in the mirror.