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Old 05-08-2016, 04:37 PM   #1171
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That may reflect Air Force... Its missing a number of aircraft that may only be used in other services.
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:43 PM   #1172
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That's a thought.
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Old 05-08-2016, 05:33 PM   #1173
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And hourly cost to operate...
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:37 PM   #1174
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Cut up all the weapons...
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:33 PM   #1175
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Freaken 4 Bore !!!!!!!

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Old 05-09-2016, 12:02 AM   #1176
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Jesus, he likes to hear himself talk. But the guns are cool, although a little big for plinking rats. Also a mite spendy at $1,000 a round.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:46 AM   #1177
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Cut up all the weapons...
I've seen water jets used to cut thing clean in half to see. How are these cut so that only a chunk is removed and not cut cleanly in half? A band saw would need to pass clean through and out the other side. A water jet would need to pass clean through. How do they do this? An angle grinder? Milling machine?
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:08 AM   #1178
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It could have been cut with a reciprocating saw, a torch, an abrasive wheel, plasma cutter, a milling machine, or magic erasure. It could be a water jet, just flood the inside of the barrel.
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:38 PM   #1179
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Also a mite spendy at $1,000 a round.
I didn't watch 23 minutes of that vid to find out, but, seriously? $1,000 a round? What are they made from? Gold? Platinum? Children of the rich and famous?

That sounds like complete and utter fucking bullshit.

Is the mining of the brass and lead, and the gasoline and oil and equipment to do so, included in that price?

Popdigr has a small lathe. I'll pop that sumbitch out all the rounds he wants at a grand a pop.

$1,000 a round has just got to be bullshit.
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Old 05-09-2016, 01:11 PM   #1180
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Alright, I just watched that entire excruciating video, and I must have missed the part where he mentions $1,000 a round ammo.

At YouTube, however, the video description does mention that the box of 10 rounds of antique ammo sold for $20,700. Antique ammunition. $2000+ per.

Also, I don't think someone let him fire thousands of dollars worth of antique ammo just for fun. He was firing modern replica ammo, at best.

I laughed out loud when he shouldered the gun the second time on the other shoulder. The slo-mo shots were priceless. That guy won't fire another shoulder-fired weapon for a month.
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Old 05-09-2016, 01:57 PM   #1181
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How do they do this? An angle grinder? Milling machine?

Fricken Lazerbeams !!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-09-2016, 02:34 PM   #1182
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Some laser pointer company needs to change their company name to Fricken.
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Old 05-09-2016, 02:38 PM   #1183
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I wonder if an EDM machine could accomplish the task as pictured?

They're pretty awesome.
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Old 05-09-2016, 04:27 PM   #1184
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Yes, but EDM is more complex than necessary for that cut.

In the video he didn't say what the ammo cost so I went looking for it. All I could find was a box the video guy's company is putting up for auction later this month. Somebody on a forum said the auction estimate was $3000 to $5000 for a box of 5. I thought maybe it was high because it's antique ammo, but I couldn't find anyone that makes it now. Another guy in that forum gave the name of some guy in England who would make the shells if you wanted to load them yourself. They also said at one time the Russians made 4 bore paper shells for their flare guns.
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Old 05-09-2016, 04:39 PM   #1185
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I have seen training aids like that back in the 60's I asked my Dad the teacher, and he said they did it with a grinder.
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