Learning how to build an electric guitar - Page 26

Gravdigr · 02-19-2019, 01:16 PM

Stain it, then paint over it in the spring.

Flint · 02-19-2019, 03:42 PM

I feel your pain, bro. School of hard knocks.

But when God closes one door he opens another--

lumberjim · 02-19-2019, 05:09 PM

I have that stuff. Or something like it. Thing about that stuff is the edges. You need to keep it all from sliding off somehow. You could do very thin coats and build it up, or I was thinking of carving 1/2" deep reliefs in the areas where there are no cavities and filling them with epoxy resin. Heavy though. I might do like Digr said. Still mulling it over.

Flint · 02-19-2019, 05:25 PM

Engraving, filled with epoxy, don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah, heavy though.

lumberjim · 02-19-2019, 07:19 PM

I've got plans for the next guitar floating around in my head. The head stock as a flame to go with the flamed Maple neck:

And a body like this, but done better:

Undertoad · 02-19-2019, 07:48 PM

I once repaired a nut on a bass that was actually pulled out of alignment by an offset headstock design. The pressure exerted by bass strings is way more than guitar strings, but still, I'd worry about how much responsibility is on the nut to handle that bend.

Maybe a locking nut... they don't do that on basses AFAIK...

Gravdigr · 02-20-2019, 09:18 AM

Your headstock design looks like a painter's palette.

Likey.

lumberjim · 02-20-2019, 06:37 PM

Made a new short handle stick to use, and a taller rotisserie type mount so I can spin the body 360 while I apply finish.

I decided to go with boiled linseed oil thinned with lacquer thinner, and some lacquer based pigment. I'll cover it with polyurethane gloss finish as a top coat. I tried a bunch of combinations of oil and lacquer and dye.

The linseed has a slight yellow cast, which helps with the color I want. About 7 parts white, 2 parts green and 1 part blue comes up pretty close.

I like it.

sexobon · 02-20-2019, 06:54 PM

Looking good, it's got character.

lumberjim · 02-20-2019, 06:54 PM

Here's that epoxy resin

Very tricky to get it smooth with coat thin enough to use on a guitar. Maybe a telecaster because their tops are flat.

Gravdigr · 02-20-2019, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I decided to go with boiled linseed oil thinned with lacquer thinner, and some lacquer based pigment.

Be careful.

Quote:

Rags soaked with linseed oil stored in a pile are considered a fire hazard because they provide a large surface area for oxidation of the oil, which oxidises quickly. The oxidation of linseed oil is an exothermic reaction, which accelerates as the temperature of the rags increases. When heat accumulation exceeds the rate of heat dissipation into the environment, the temperature increases and may eventually become hot enough to make the rags spontaneously combust.

In 1991, One Meridian Plaza, a high rise in Philadelphia, was severely damaged and three firefighters perished in a fire thought to be caused by linseed oil-soaked rags.

~Wiki

101, I know, but it bears repeating.

lumberjim · 02-20-2019, 10:36 PM

It's ok, I've got them wadded up nice and tight and tucked under my box of sawdust next to the gas can.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-21-2019, 01:15 AM

You're not just another pretty face.

Gravdigr · 02-21-2019, 01:11 PM

Cover it in fertilizer!!!

lumberjim · 02-22-2019, 11:40 AM

Done work in half an hour, then to the shop! I'm going to run down the body with 0000 steel wool, then give it another coat of goo. The feedback I'm getting from the guitar finishing people leads me to thinking I might just quit with 3 coats of oil and skip the poly. Or just do one light coat and rub it in. The poly won't bond with the oil, they say. Why bother if you're Ok with satin finish, etc.

So we'll see how these next 2 coats go.

02-19-2019, 01:16 PM	#376
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Stain it, then paint over it in the spring. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-19-2019, 03:42 PM	#377
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I feel your pain, bro. School of hard knocks. But when God closes one door he opens another-- __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

02-19-2019, 05:09 PM	#378
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I have that stuff. Or something like it. Thing about that stuff is the edges. You need to keep it all from sliding off somehow. You could do very thin coats and build it up, or I was thinking of carving 1/2" deep reliefs in the areas where there are no cavities and filling them with epoxy resin. Heavy though. I might do like Digr said. Still mulling it over. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-19-2019, 05:25 PM	#379
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Engraving, filled with epoxy, don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah, heavy though. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

02-19-2019, 07:19 PM	#380
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I've got plans for the next guitar floating around in my head. The head stock as a flame to go with the flamed Maple neck: And a body like this, but done better: __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-19-2019, 07:48 PM	#381
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I once repaired a nut on a bass that was actually pulled out of alignment by an offset headstock design. The pressure exerted by bass strings is way more than guitar strings, but still, I'd worry about how much responsibility is on the nut to handle that bend. Maybe a locking nut... they don't do that on basses AFAIK...

02-20-2019, 09:18 AM	#382
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Your headstock design looks like a painter's palette. Likey. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-20-2019, 06:37 PM	#383
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Made a new short handle stick to use, and a taller rotisserie type mount so I can spin the body 360 while I apply finish. I decided to go with boiled linseed oil thinned with lacquer thinner, and some lacquer based pigment. I'll cover it with polyurethane gloss finish as a top coat. I tried a bunch of combinations of oil and lacquer and dye. The linseed has a slight yellow cast, which helps with the color I want. About 7 parts white, 2 parts green and 1 part blue comes up pretty close. I like it. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-20-2019, 06:54 PM	#384
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Looking good, it's got character.

02-20-2019, 06:54 PM	#385
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Here's that epoxy resin Very tricky to get it smooth with coat thin enough to use on a guitar. Maybe a telecaster because their tops are flat. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-20-2019, 10:36 PM	#387
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	It's ok, I've got them wadded up nice and tight and tucked under my box of sawdust next to the gas can. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-21-2019, 01:15 AM	#388
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You're not just another pretty face. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-21-2019, 01:11 PM	#389
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Cover it in fertilizer!!! __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-22-2019, 11:40 AM	#390
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Done work in half an hour, then to the shop! I'm going to run down the body with 0000 steel wool, then give it another coat of goo. The feedback I'm getting from the guitar finishing people leads me to thinking I might just quit with 3 coats of oil and skip the poly. Or just do one light coat and rub it in. The poly won't bond with the oil, they say. Why bother if you're Ok with satin finish, etc. So we'll see how these next 2 coats go. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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