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Old 08-03-2018, 10:29 AM   #31
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"It is indisputable that it is not safe to permit EVERYBODY to be free to do whatever they want."

And who sorts that out, separates the wheat from the chaff?
The rest of the paragraph.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:38 AM   #32
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"Even John Wayne and Billy The Kid needed help."

From cohorts, cronies, and friends, not mandated from on high.

meh

'nuff said.
All the frontier towns relied on connections back to civilization to do anything more than subsist. They weren't outside, they were on the fringe.


And "the dust settled" when government reached them.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:39 AM   #33
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What would really help is if they'd finally tack minimum wage to inflation and a regional economic benchmark, so it could be different in Topeka vs. NYC but still increased automatically without this painful legislative back-and-forth every few years.
I wish it was few.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:09 PM   #34
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Happy,

You're comfortable being governed (regulated and directed): good on you.

I'm not.

Let's just leave it at that.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:53 PM   #35
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Let's just leave it at that.
And here I thought you started this thread to discuss ideas.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:16 PM   #36
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Why I started the thread is my business, as your participation in the thread is yours.

Read my opening post: the request is simple, direct, and does not include any promise of 'discussion'.

Disappointing, yes (cuz I'm such a lively conversationalist, witty and compelling), but it shouldn't be surprising (cuz, at heart, I'm a [witty and compelling] bastid).
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:06 PM   #37
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On the upside, a minarchy would make a huge cut in air pollution which would slow global warming, climate change. and increasingly severe weather.
Since there wouldn't be any roads suitable for more than horses and mules, all the cars and trucks would be parked. It would also advance science developing flying cars.
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Old 08-03-2018, 08:12 PM   #38
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what's wrong, Bruce? afraid to walk? a'fear'd of horses, mules?

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Old 08-04-2018, 12:31 AM   #39
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I've had horses with the hay pitching and shit shoveling that goes with it.
Done plenty of walking too... uphill both ways some times. Fuck that.
This is the way I want to see that shit.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:43 AM   #40
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a minarchy would make a huge cut in air pollution
~ no ~

From what I read, burning wood and dung is probably carbon-neutral (depending on what you do with the forests to get that wood; historically, we just cut it all down) but creates more pollutants, which make life unlivable locally. And creates airborne black carbon soot which harms, amongst other things, the Arctic ice and which many people consider responsible for a good bit of climate change too. It's not sustainable for 7 Billion people.


"Our future if we treat climate change as the only problem that needs solving: more climate change"
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:51 AM   #41
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"I've had horses with the hay pitching and shit shoveling that goes with it. Done plenty of walking too... uphill both ways some times."

Me too, then and now.

Me: I enjoy the effort.

*shrug*

No worries, Bruce, there's never gonna be a 'night watchman' or a Golgothan-style anarchy in America.

Far too many want to be governed (regulated & directed) and far too many are more than happy to govern (regulate & direct).

No, your future is secure...you'll be well-tended to, provided for, sheltered, insulated, 'educated & entertained'.

Good on you.
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Old 08-04-2018, 08:34 PM   #42
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~ no ~

From what I read, burning wood and dung is probably carbon-neutral (depending on what you do with the forests to get that wood; historically, we just cut it all down) but creates more pollutants, which make life unlivable locally. And creates airborne black carbon soot which harms, amongst other things, the Arctic ice and which many people consider responsible for a good bit of climate change too. It's not sustainable for 7 Billion people.
Wouldn't happen because at least the country would starve to death before that happens.

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"I've had horses with the hay pitching and shit shoveling that goes with it. Done plenty of walking too... uphill both ways some times."

Me too, then and now.

Me: I enjoy the effort.

*shrug*

No worries, Bruce, there's never gonna be a 'night watchman' or a Golgothan-style anarchy in America.

Far too many want to be governed (regulated & directed) and far too many are more than happy to govern (regulate & direct).

No, your future is secure...you'll be well-tended to, provided for, sheltered, insulated, 'educated & entertained'.

Good on you.
I'm not worrying about that happening here, I was just thinking about what it would be like in your minarchy. I ain't scart.
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Old 08-05-2018, 11:52 AM   #43
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"I ain't scart."

Of course not, for the reasons I laid out above.
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