The Benghazi Incident

[Adak]

No lamplighter, what I was disturbed by was the whole tone of the web site. Before it was emphasizing military power and readiness - and in fact, they flew many missions into Libya and the Balkans (during the Balkan conflict).

Now, the web site emphasizes environmental projects, base amenities, personnel issues, etc.

Their motto "Anywhere, Anytime", is no longer even displayed.

[Lamplighter]

So far, you haven't convinced me.

There are a lot of mottos at Aviano AF Base, and at other military units.



but at least one of them had a sense of humor...

[Lamplighter]

By the way, the Benghazi event is no longer of serious concern in Congress.
McCain has dropped it and gone on a secret mission to Syria.

We know it's was secret because he was not on the Sunday talk shows this past weekend.

[Griff]

Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q?

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by Griff

Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q?

I don't know, but if Obama is in favor, McCain will be agin it, and v/v.

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by Griff

Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q?

...again?

[Griff]

John McCain denies he knowingly posed with with 'rebel kidnappers' in Syria

No danger in getting better weapons to these guys though, because clearly we know who we're dealing with.

[Griff]

Obama in 2007: “No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime, no more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war…” While Obama publicly expressed outcry at monitoring of citizens protesting Iraq, his administration’s collection of Verizon phone records was broader. Unlike the Bush White House, which sometimes did not use a warrant, the Obama Administration had a warrant from a FISA judge. Obama goes on to mention that FISA court system, which he used to get his warrant for the broad seizing of Verizon records, works.

Al Gore and Rand Paul agree with Past Obama. This a real not a Benghazi.

[glatt]

The telling thing is that the leaks are now going to foreign press.

[Griff]

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is secretly carrying out a domestic surveillance program under which it is collecting business communications records involving Americans under a hotly debated section of the Patriot Act, according to a highly classified court order disclosed on Wednesday night.

[Griff]

EFF put out a time line of the NSA Domestic Spying Program. This is how Presidencies should end. If only the GOP had a leg to stand on in the 4th Amendment department.

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

[Lamplighter]

Those silly "liberals" and the ACLU have been warning of this for some time now.
When people are surprised and unhappy, maybe next time they'll pay attention.

Here is Ron Wyden (D- OR) last March...


Here he is speaking on extension of the Patriot Act back in May, 2011
YouTube (23 minutes)... vMAX_Frj8xM

If Democrats keep control of the Senate in 2014,
Wyden will become Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee
I suspect he will have some sway over which laws and budgets get passed.

[Griff]

Muddy Waters

The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

So we're (by we're I mean our out of control executive) trying to arm radical Islamists in Syria but our operation gets trashed by radical Islamists in Lybia?

[glatt]

Wow.

I'd love to know who those "sources" are.

I bet Obama would too.

If the CIA was running an operation out of Benghazi, was the attack on the embassy aimed at them? Why would Islamist militants attack the CIA for supplying their brethren in another country trying to overthrow their dictator?

[Griff]

The CNN story is thin as well. Obama's record says whistle-blowers keep your heads down.