12/11: Modern art prize

Undertoad · 12-11-2001, 12:26 PM

From Yahoo most popular, and the caption: "Martin Creed who won this year's Turner Prize of 20,000 pounds ($28,600) stands in front of his winning exhibit which consists of flashing lightbulbs in an empty room, at the Tate Britain art gallery in London, December 9, 2001. U.S. pop star Madonna presented one of the world's most famous art prizes to conceptual artist Martin Creed for his controversial creation 'Bare Room with a Light that Switches on and off'."

It's not fair, but all I can think is: "The emperor is naked."

And I'll grant almost anything as art. I ws the kid who took "Aesthetic Rebels of the 60s and 70s" in college because it was a hard-liner approach to recent art history. And this has as much claim to being art as any Hollywood film. Or early Madonna albums. But come on, there has to be a limit somewhere.

Pie · 12-11-2001, 01:10 PM

Well, the ceiling looks a little odd. Maybe that's the "art". I dunno.

- Pie

12-11-2001, 02:27 PM

I have created a piece of living art. It is called

"Man Who Works On His Computer And Poops Every Day Or Two".

Where do I claim my prize?

Griff · 12-11-2001, 02:53 PM

All you have to do is look at his jacket. He is legit.

hmmm... those don't look like artist shoes though!

warch · 12-11-2001, 04:24 PM

OK, Its not a visual work- its conceptual and experiential. So you cant really make an informed judgement from a still image.

Undertoad · 12-11-2001, 04:57 PM

That's possible... could be the lights flash in such a way as to give you a different impression. Or maybe what parts of the wall are illuminated at different times.

OK now I feel dumb.

warch · 12-11-2001, 05:03 PM

Well, I dont think Creed's tongue is completely removed from his cheek...

Joe · 12-11-2001, 05:43 PM

In that room for $28,000 he should at least provide some *colored* flashing lights, maybe a laser or two and a good DJ.

antman001 · 12-11-2001, 07:38 PM

Ok, What you guys have to remember is that this is the Turner prize. The Turner prize is not about the art that wins the prize, it is about getting contemporary art the publicity that it needs to be noticed.

You see, nothing that wins the prize is ever a tangible art object (in the traditional sense). Because it's purpose is to draw attention to the differance between art and objects. It's the idea that wins the prize.

Mind you, this one is a little bit much, I suppose. Maybe you're right about the coloured lights....

Griff · 12-11-2001, 08:01 PM

aaaahhh... so it is the jacket.

antman001 · 12-11-2001, 09:03 PM

Exactly

jennofay · 12-11-2001, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Griff
All you have to do is look at his jacket. He is legit. hmmm... those don't look like artist shoes though!

heh heh

i am finishing my first semester at an art school, and our student show went up today...

all im going to say is, yes...anything can be art anymore

but luckily there are still some people who appreciate good old-fashioned fine art. i dont know, i guess i can appreciate modern art in the fact that its one persons representation of an idea, and everyone thinks differently, and its interesting to see how these thoughts are expressed in two or three dimensions...

but come on...

i used to have blue chistmas lights wrapped around my bed, anyone wanna pay me an obscene amount of money and put that in a gallery somewhere?

12-11-2001, 10:09 PM

and I bought her those blue lights, so I should get a prize too

juju · 12-12-2001, 07:21 AM

This kinda reminds me of all those stupid patents that are being awarded lately, like hooking a hard drive up to a tv to record stuff.

I mean, some thing are obvious. Fire. Fire is obvious. If Ogg the Caveman hadn't stumbled across it, Okk would have probably figured it out 3 years later. Some things are just obvious and don't deserve excessive praise.

:]

12-12-2001, 08:35 AM

Ah. The good days of slashdot.

He was OOG, my friend. And He Was Special.

For whatever reason, OOG THE CAVEMAN cracked me up more than any other troll I've ever read. He was a reason to read Slashdot. Oh, how I miss him.

12-11-2001, 12:26 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	12/11: Modern art prize From Yahoo most popular, and the caption: "Martin Creed who won this year's Turner Prize of 20,000 pounds ($28,600) stands in front of his winning exhibit which consists of flashing lightbulbs in an empty room, at the Tate Britain art gallery in London, December 9, 2001. U.S. pop star Madonna presented one of the world's most famous art prizes to conceptual artist Martin Creed for his controversial creation 'Bare Room with a Light that Switches on and off'." It's not fair, but all I can think is: "The emperor is naked." And I'll grant almost anything as art. I ws the kid who took "Aesthetic Rebels of the 60s and 70s" in college because it was a hard-liner approach to recent art history. And this has as much claim to being art as any Hollywood film. Or early Madonna albums. But come on, there has to be a limit somewhere.

12-11-2001, 01:10 PM	#2
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Well, the ceiling looks a little odd. Maybe that's the "art". I dunno. - Pie __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-11-2001, 05:43 PM	#8
Joe Master of the Domain Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 221	well heck In that room for $28,000 he should at least provide some colored flashing lights, maybe a laser or two and a good DJ.

12-11-2001, 07:38 PM	#9
antman001 Person Who Has Posted Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2	It's the Turner, you know Ok, What you guys have to remember is that this is the Turner prize. The Turner prize is not about the art that wins the prize, it is about getting contemporary art the publicity that it needs to be noticed. You see, nothing that wins the prize is ever a tangible art object (in the traditional sense). Because it's purpose is to draw attention to the differance between art and objects. It's the idea that wins the prize. Mind you, this one is a little bit much, I suppose. Maybe you're right about the coloured lights....

12-11-2001, 02:27 PM	#3
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I have created a piece of living art. It is called "Man Who Works On His Computer And Poops Every Day Or Two". Where do I claim my prize?

12-11-2001, 02:53 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	All you have to do is look at his jacket. He is legit. hmmm... those don't look like artist shoes though!

12-11-2001, 04:24 PM	#5
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	OK, Its not a visual work- its conceptual and experiential. So you cant really make an informed judgement from a still image.

12-11-2001, 04:57 PM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	That's possible... could be the lights flash in such a way as to give you a different impression. Or maybe what parts of the wall are illuminated at different times. OK now I feel dumb.

12-11-2001, 05:03 PM	#7
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Well, I dont think Creed's tongue is completely removed from his cheek...

12-11-2001, 08:01 PM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	aaaahhh... so it is the jacket.

12-11-2001, 09:03 PM	#11
antman001 Person Who Has Posted Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2	Exactly

12-11-2001, 10:09 PM	#13
dave Guest Posts: n/a	and I bought her those blue lights, so I should get a prize too

12-12-2001, 07:21 AM	#14
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	This kinda reminds me of all those stupid patents that are being awarded lately, like hooking a hard drive up to a tv to record stuff. I mean, some thing are obvious. Fire. Fire is obvious. If Ogg the Caveman hadn't stumbled across it, Okk would have probably figured it out 3 years later. Some things are just obvious and don't deserve excessive praise. :]

12-12-2001, 08:35 AM	#15
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Ah. The good days of slashdot. He was OOG, my friend. And He Was Special. For whatever reason, OOG THE CAVEMAN cracked me up more than any other troll I've ever read. He was a reason to read Slashdot. Oh, how I miss him.

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