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Old 09-10-2017, 12:04 PM   #1
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House of Horrors

It is so interesting*to read USA Today has labelled the VA hospital that provides your treatment a "House of Horrors". If you read the article, please note the debacle began during Obama's. We have often joked how we should go to Mexico, throw away our identification, and get caught by*the Border Patrol crossing back to the US. Sad when the illegal aliens have better medical treatment than vets.

Yes, I realize I am whining but it is so frustrating to beg for health care after it was promised. Sorry - needed to vent.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ats/637497001/
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:56 PM   #2
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My VA hospital Tomah Wi gets 3 stars. There have been problems, but overall they have been good.
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Old 09-10-2017, 03:33 PM   #3
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Hi there ya Big ol' Sargey thang ya! Nice to 'hear' from you again.
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Old 09-10-2017, 04:44 PM   #4
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If you read the article, please note the debacle began during Obama's.
Read for comprehension. No, the debacle finally became public during Obama's administration because they didn't try to hide it. I've been listening to guys bitch about the VA hospitals since the 50's and it picked up considerably during Vietnam.
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:28 PM   #5
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Also the economy was ruined during Obama. And he caused racism! Benghazi!!!
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:08 PM   #6
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Maybe take a step back and take a larger look, maybe decide to take it to a different thread, Flint. Sarge came here to vent about terrible health care for vets. Yes, the debacle isn't new. Yes, the debacle continues (and didn't get better with eight years of the Obama administration). Sarge can have a legitimate point without having to meet anyone else's legitimacy test.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:31 AM   #7
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Start a new thread to comment on Bruce's comment in this thread? That's just weird.
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:34 AM   #8
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My comment was that the VA hospitals problem has been ongoing and blaming it on Obama is obviously bringing political bias into a non-partisan problem everyone should be appalled at. I stand by that and feel it was an appropriate response in this thread.
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:59 AM   #9
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:04 PM   #10
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Worst case of the debacles I ever saw.

Probably a genetic disorder; but, not along the lines of G6PD Deficiency.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:05 PM   #11
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In August 2016, the VA released what was billed as the "most comprehensive analysis of veteran suicide rates" ever conducted, which examined more than 55 million veterans' records from 1979 to 2014 from all 50 states.

"The current analysis indicates that in 2014, an average of 20 veterans a day died from suicide" -- or one every 72 minutes, the report said.

The data also showed that only six of the 20 veterans who die in the U.S. each day are enrolled in the VA and only three are in active treatment, indicating a need for more outreach by the VA.

The VA's report said that about 65 percent of all veterans who died from suicide in 2014 were 50 years of age or older, and veterans accounted for 18 percent of all deaths from suicide among U.S. adults, a decrease from 22 percent in 2010.
Since 2001, the rate of suicide among veterans who use VA services increased by 8.8 percent, while the rate of suicide among veterans who do not use VA services increased by 38.6 percent, the report said.

The toll-free Veterans Crisis Line is 1-800-273-8255, press 1
"As some of you may know, veterans tend to come to a VA -- either drive a car or come to the VA -- and actually suicide on our property," Shulkin said last Tuesday, stressing the need for the Department of Veterans Affairs to do more to curb veteran suicides, estimated at 20 daily nationwide.

"There are a number of reasons, not all of which I completely understand," for veterans to choose to end their lives at the VA, he said, "but one of them being they don't want their families to have to discover them."
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