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Old 11-09-2005, 08:29 PM   #16
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If you had irrefutable proof that there was NO god, would you live your life differently?
Oh yeah. I'd rub it in the noses of the believers every chance I got.
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:53 AM   #17
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A banana is not perforated.
And not only that, the "common grocery store banana" that this group describes as one of God's special creations tailor-made for man is, in fact, a hybrid which was completly designed by scientists (who no doubt practice those evil Darwinism rites) and is fairly recent in time. National Geographic discussed this in a fascinating article recently. These plantation-grown bananas - basically only one variety is planted all over the world for sale to Westerners - are also in immediate danger of extinction due to an unfortunate weakness for disease, and may soon cease to exist commercially. But never fear, those sneaky Darwinists have already been researching other varieties which can be "evolved" into an acceptable substitute.

Even the God Squad ought to check their facts occasionally, just in case
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:59 PM   #18
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Who would have thought? Anne Rice has returned to her faith.

neener neener neener
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:32 PM   #19
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*sighs*
I've got... a useless organ that can kill me,
Someday, you'll find someone who will love you just as you are.
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In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic.

"Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:43 PM   #20
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Who would have thought? Anne Rice has returned to her faith.

neener neener neener
No one ever accused her of being especially bright.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:36 PM   #21
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in the end of our lives, we relive our youth
the world a new joy to our eyes
disregarding days when we saw the truth
in fear or dread of life's demise
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:32 PM   #22
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what did I do to deserve that? Go fuck yourself, it sounds like you're not getting many other takers.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:06 PM   #23
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"The banana-the atheist's nightmare."

Really???

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Note that the banana:

Is shaped for human hand
Has non-slip surface
Has outward indicators of inward content:
Green-too early,
Yellow-just right,
Black-too late.
Has a tab for removal of wrapper
Is perforated on wrapper
Bio-degradable wrapper
Is shaped for human mouth
Has a point at top for ease of entry
Is pleasing to taste buds
Is curved towards the face to make eating process easy

The pineapple the creationist's nightmare.

Note the pineapple

Is NOT shaped for the human hand
Is damn hard to hold on to
If you've never seen one before, wouldn't know what was inside
Greenish-yellow-too early
Greenish-yellow-just right
Greenish-yellow-too late
Bloody hard to get into
Likely to cut off own finger while trying to get into
3 pounds of wrapper 1 pound of food
Good luck getting the whole thing in your mouth (and if you can... )
Ease of entry... to WHERE??
Is pleasing to taste buds
Likely to leave juice running down your chin


A good rebuttal to the whole "test" here:
http://www.atheistalliance.org/libra...eist_test.html

And besides I can think of some other and more fun things that the banana might have been conveniently "designed" for... and some of them might even loosen up a creationist
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:09 AM   #24
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No one ever accused her [Anne Rice] of being especially bright.
Or an especially good writer.

Popular, yes. Good, not by a longshot.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:58 AM   #25
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what did I do to deserve that? Go fuck yourself, it sounds like you're not getting many other takers.
Inability to take a joke: first sign of impending trend to vote conservative. My but you're touchy for someone so young.
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In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic.

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Old 11-11-2005, 06:16 AM   #26
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An interesting quoate from Richard Dawkins on the banana question:

"A banana is one of the wonders of the world. You could say that of any living object, and I could stop there. But I won't. A banana is a fruit, shaped by natural selection to be palatable, hence eaten and its seeds dispersed. But the bananas we eat are seedless. Artificial breeding has enhanced nature's means (palatability) while eliminating nature's end (seed dispersal). It's a metaphor for much that is special about humans. "
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:48 AM   #27
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I think I'm just too used to be randomly attacked. It's like that reflex thing where if someone taps you on the shoulder you elbow them in the nose and.....you mean not everyone does that?
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:27 AM   #28
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An argument I have with IDiots all of the time...

...concerns the vast pool of creation myths in existance. Do we only teach one? Two? Two hundred?

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/themix/#28111

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Posted by Joshua Holland on November 10, 2005 at 2:36 PM.

Two points here. First, I don't see the need for a drawn out argument about whether or not "intelligent design" is legitimate science.

By definition, it's not. Central to the scientific method is the dispositive principle - every theory can be disproved. Evolution, like gravity, is a theory that has withstood the test of time and numerous challenges. But if empirical evidence (that could be tested repeatedly) emerged tomorrow which disproved evolution or gravity, scientists would accept those data. They'd have to.

ID begins with a given that can't be shaken. There's a designer, argue its advocates, and that's the end of the story. It's an article of faith.

But more to the point, I've long believed that the way to fight these ID hacks is on their own terms. Allow me to repost part of an old argument, edited slightly:

...more...
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:35 PM   #29
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Bananas;
a - Has a tab for removal of wrapper
b - Has a point at top for ease of entry
Actually, most of the other primates eat it from the opposite end than Humans do.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:45 PM   #30
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Most other primates fling their poo. So?


Of course, we have scat porn.

(if you have to ask, you don't want to know).
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