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Old 11-24-2019, 03:38 PM   #16
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now 187k. (for comparison, F150 sells like 900k per year)
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:14 AM   #17
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I suspect they'll be safer than human drivers somewhat soon, but part of that will come from driving less agressively, so human drivers will be cutting them off constantly, and part will be because they will give up and transfer control to humans part of the time.
I don't know, all the videos of them self driving seem to be at the speed limit everywhere. On the open roads that's fine (actually a pain in the ass but legal) but in city traffic 25 MPH can be too fast for people to get out of the way.
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Also, when they do make mistakes, they are likely to be ones that no human would make, so people will me much more freaked out by one robot doing something we find bizarre than by 100 humans rear-ending someone while texting.
That brings up the other problem, and why 25 can be too fast. They have trouble with people and animals that move after they've determined them to be stationary objects. Hopefully they'll get that figured out before it's all self driving.

I'm not against the principle, it will be an advantage to me someday, I just don't trust them yet. I've seen TomTom and Garmin make too many mistakes and we're talking about situations where 50 ft makes a hell of a difference.

That truck bed cover (I don't know if they call it a tonneau cover, GM does not. A tonneau cover is historically the cover for a retracted roof, but it's been appropriated by aftermarket truck accessory makers), what do you do with it when you have to carry something large? Say a refrigerator that has to stand up.
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:37 AM   #18
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Leave it open, like all other bed covers
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:10 AM   #19
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That doesn't work, First of all none I've seen open 90 degrees, but even if they did you'd have a huge sail area pushing against your refrigerator you don't want pushed against, while eating up your battery. This is why I said it's not designed to be used the way working pickups are used, where most of the stuff going in and out of the bed don't go through the tailgate but over the side. Especially tools and small frequently used items. I'm sure he'll sell a lot of them to be used for recreation, profiling, camping, and commuting, but they are not practical for working. Tough mounting tool boxes on the slope.
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:25 AM   #20
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?? A refrigerator is going in through the tailgate and you just leave the bed open like normal
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:55 AM   #21
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The bed is covered normally isn't it? That's why I questioned what you do with that cover when you have something big to carry. Usually they hinge but that may lift off. If so, you have to plan ahead.

OK I found it.
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The powered bed cover is strong enough to walk on and fully retracts into the space between the bed and the cabin when it’s opened.
It must not be one piece but sectional to fit it there since it would obviously store vertically.
I haven't seen the size of the bed, length or width?
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:03 AM   #22
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Watch the video of the bed cover retracting, it slides down behind the back seats

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Old 11-25-2019, 03:07 AM   #23
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Like a roll top desk in channels. That gets it out of the way, I wonder if there's glass between the cabin and bed when it's open.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:10 AM   #24
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Armor glass.

Also, the rear view mirror is a high-definition camera.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:25 AM   #25
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OK, it's sealed of then, that's good.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:34 AM   #26
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The question I keep hearing is they claim the 2 motor truck in the middle has a 300 mile range and can tow 10,000 lbs. How many miles towing that weight with the A/C on?

I got this from Texas this morning.

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Clever but unfair in that this thing has a lot of good ideas built in. It will sell well to the Attention-Whores, First-on-the-Blockers, Couldn't-have-a-Bricklin Kids, and whomever can plug in at work for free or a tax write off. But the guy who carries ladders and lumber, not so much.
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:03 PM   #27
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I predict the next back to the future movie will feature this truck
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:34 PM   #28
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I wonder if the flux capacitor and Mr Fusion will work with the bed cover closed?
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:35 PM   #29
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People say, if you remove the visual of the rear triangle, it's more visible how it's a pickup truck. I've done that in MS Paint so you will have to squint hard to see it

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Old 11-25-2019, 03:51 PM   #30
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It's a turd.

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