Who had Castro?

Griff · 11-26-2016, 07:57 AM

Dead at 90. discuss

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-...53?ns_mchannel

Undertoad · 11-26-2016, 09:30 AM

This is an opportunity. With no more Castro or Chavez, Sean Penn will be on the hunt for another Communist asshat he can visit and admire. Hopefully the next one beats his wife so they have something to talk about.

lumberjim · 11-26-2016, 09:51 AM

I think I did. Last 3 times I think

Griff · 11-26-2016, 10:27 AM

Maybe Sean will move to Nokor.

Gravdigr · 11-26-2016, 01:21 PM

Nokor.

North Korea, I assume?

elSicomoro · 11-26-2016, 03:23 PM

I've never understood the love that some of my fellow liberals give folks like Castro, Mao, etc. But a friend of mine said something that I can appreciate: "We don't have to endorse his actions to understand Fidel Castro was a fascinating icon. Amazing accomplishments. Just wrong goals."

Griff · 11-26-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Nokor.

North Korea, I assume?

Yep.

That tendency in liberals makes me keep my distance. There is a love of power there that is ah,.. illiberal.

Undertoad · 11-27-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elSicomoro

I've never understood the love that some of my fellow liberals give folks like Castro, Mao, etc. But a friend of mine said something that I can appreciate: "We don't have to endorse his actions to understand Fidel Castro was a fascinating icon. Amazing accomplishments. Just wrong goals."

Here is the Human Rights Watch summary of his record for five decades of killing, repression, surveillance, beatings, arbitrary detention, economic stagnation, mass flight, propaganda, punishment of journalists, forced re-education of gays... the list of offenses just goes on and fuckin' on...

"A fascinating icon."

They loved him. Like they loved the murderous Che. I'm pretty sure it's because they are subject to exactly the same type of "big man" persuasion they pretend to hate so well in Trump. Once persuaded you will excuse everything, even murder.

"Just wrong goals." That's just about the worst thing I've ever heard.

sexobon · 11-27-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau

“A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and health care of his island nation, ...

... While a controversial figure, both Mr. Castro’s supporters and detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for 'el Comandante.' "

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, whose father fled Cuba during the Castro years, called Trudeau’s statement “disgraceful. Why do young socialists idolize totalitarian tyrants? Castro, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot — all evil, torturing murderers.”

Other Twitter users, as you’d expect, took it a lot further, using the #trudeaueulogies tag to mock the prime minister and satirize his comments.

"While controversial, Darth Vader achieved great heights in space construction & played a formative role in his son's life,” quipped Jason Markusoff, a correspondent for Canada’s Maclean's magazine.

Added Canadian sports commentator Mike Hogan: “Today we mourn the loss of Norman Bates, a family man who was truly defined by his devotion to his mother.”

And offered Australian news columnist Rita Panahi, “Although flawed, Hitler was a vegetarian who loved animals, was a contributor to the arts & proud advocate for Germany.” ...

Griff · 11-27-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Here is the Human Rights Watch summary of his record for five decades of killing, repression, surveillance, beatings, arbitrary detention, economic stagnation, mass flight, propaganda, punishment of journalists, forced re-education of gays... the list of offenses just goes on and fuckin' on...

"A fascinating icon."

They loved him. Like they loved the murderous Che. I'm pretty sure it's because they are subject to exactly the same type of "big man" persuasion they pretend to hate so well in Trump. Once persuaded you will excuse everything, even murder.

"Just wrong goals." That's just about the worst thing I've ever heard.

This. All of this.

Carruthers · 11-27-2016, 01:21 PM

Cuba wasn't a workers' paradise. It was North Korea with cheap rum.

elSicomoro · 11-27-2016, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Here is the Human Rights Watch summary of his record for five decades of killing, repression, surveillance, beatings, arbitrary detention, economic stagnation, mass flight, propaganda, punishment of journalists, forced re-education of gays... the list of offenses just goes on and fuckin' on...

"A fascinating icon."

They loved him. Like they loved the murderous Che. I'm pretty sure it's because they are subject to exactly the same type of "big man" persuasion they pretend to hate so well in Trump. Once persuaded you will excuse everything, even murder.

"Just wrong goals." That's just about the worst thing I've ever heard.

I think he IS a fascinating character...much like other tyrants. That doesn't mean you AGREE with them.

And we've had the communism discussion before...like many systems, it has good ideas, but in theory, works for shit.

Pamela · 11-27-2016, 06:18 PM

I can forgive Fidel for the "crime" of punishing journalists. The rest of it, not so much.

I keep having this recurring fantasy of spanking Candy Crowley while watching Bill O'Reilly hang by his thumbs above a pit of crocodiles. Maybe I have a tyrannical streak in me......

Spexxvet · 11-28-2016, 08:08 AM

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

I had him

classicman · 11-28-2016, 01:03 PM

Dance on his grave they will!

Fear not, help is on the way ...

11-26-2016, 07:57 AM	#1
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11-26-2016, 09:30 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This is an opportunity. With no more Castro or Chavez, Sean Penn will be on the hunt for another Communist asshat he can visit and admire. Hopefully the next one beats his wife so they have something to talk about.

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elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I've never understood the love that some of my fellow liberals give folks like Castro, Mao, etc. But a friend of mine said something that I can appreciate: "We don't have to endorse his actions to understand Fidel Castro was a fascinating icon. Amazing accomplishments. Just wrong goals."

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Pamela Deplorable Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 767	I can forgive Fidel for the "crime" of punishing journalists. The rest of it, not so much. I keep having this recurring fantasy of spanking Candy Crowley while watching Bill O'Reilly hang by his thumbs above a pit of crocodiles. Maybe I have a tyrannical streak in me......

11-28-2016, 08:08 AM	#14
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