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06-07-2009, 02:55 AM

How about if we just post the funny stuff from chat in its own forum!

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Aliantha · 06-07-2009, 04:01 AM

I don't think chat logs should be posted, but there are issues with chat which bother me and are a big part of the reason i don't do it anymore much. One of the biggest issues I have is with people impersonating others. At one stage when I was having a problem with some of the people who chat regularly, I found that someone was pretending to be me and of course causing more confusion and angst for me and some others.

I believe this is the sort of childish behaviour which causes trouble on the board from chat.

That being said, I still think that chat should just stay as it is. It's just a part of this site now and I think as a general rule we've all adapted to it quite nicely.

DanaC · 06-07-2009, 05:54 AM

I think the dwellars posing as other dwellar thing has pretty much stopped. Havent seen anybody do that in ages.

[eta] I hate the idea of Chat logs being posted. It pisses me off when people post chunks of chat when they've had an argument. Don;t mind so much for humour; that's just sharing with those who missed a good joke. But when it's dragged out to support someone's claims of injury or offense, I really don't like it. I don;t like private messages being posted either.

We shouldn't have to be careful in Chat. That's where you kick back and just be yourself without thinking about typos, or having something taken the wrong way and then picked over letter by letter for the next week. If something does get taken the wrong way the Chat moves on and it becomes quickly irrelevant. Not so if it's posted as a log.

Just my tup'enn'orth.

ZenGum · 06-07-2009, 07:28 AM

Hung Like Jesus hasn't been here since the 14th of May.

Crap, did they leave him up on the cross again?

But for our feel-good story for tonight, TheAlphaJerk has been around with some bacon porn, so he didn't get all crispy-fried in the fires.

Oh, and, wot Dana said.

zippyt · 06-07-2009, 11:59 AM

What Dana said ,

May I suggest that things get changed in chat so it logs you in as yer celler name , that would alleviate the goofy name stuff , though it is Fun trying to guess who some random person is .

richlevy · 06-07-2009, 12:14 PM

Just remember, that the last few pages of posts in the main chatroom stay up there for anyone to see when they log in hours later.

One reason I use my real name as my username is to remind myself that I have to stand up for whatever I say. I have pissed off people here before and I'll do it again. That being said, I support people being anonymous, but not using someone else's Cellar handle.

I don't think public chat is private and needs to be treated as such. If someone opens a private chat or sends an e-mail then different rules apply.

I like Jim and Jinx and hope that they stay. I occasionally find him annoying and we have had some serious disagreements, but he's a supportive member of the community.

Heck, if this were the Love Boat, he'd be the cruise director.

Juniper · 06-07-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I don't think chat logs should be posted, but there are issues with chat which bother me and are a big part of the reason i don't do it anymore much. One of the biggest issues I have is with people impersonating others. At one stage when I was having a problem with some of the people who chat regularly, I found that someone was pretending to be me and of course causing more confusion and angst for me and some others.

That is exactly what scared me away from chat last time I tried it out (I was on last night - I mean, before then.). I got on and people were pretending to be other people - and I felt like a real dim bulb for being fooled. I figured I'd missed some memo or wasn't quick enough at picking up clues, and thought screw this, I'll just stick to regular forum posting.

Then again, people use sock puppets on the forum all the time, so I guess it's just like a box of chocolates. The kind that doesn't come with a guide telling you whether it's vanilla or cherry nougat. Whatcha gonna do? Just take a bite and spit it out if you don't like it.

Pie · 06-07-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Juniper

Whatcha gonna do? Just take a bite and spit it out if you don't like it.

Ditto. I stopped chatting (and responding to many threads) because I felt like I was always dodging bullets, Matrix-style. Fade out, stay out of the way, resurface when it's calmer.

I'm allergic to forum-drama. Personal drama in individuals' lives I can take; a little sympathy, perhaps a suggestion if applicable, a few wishes of goodwill. When people start throwing mud at each other,

It's a real pity that it's so prevalent right now.

Cicero · 06-07-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

If you don't see the difference between backing your friend's stupid argument that you don't personally agree with - and backing your friend against someone declaring them to be a bad person... meh. What's the point then?

Whether it's tiki or V or RichLevy or whatever person of the week who decides to shit all over my husband, point out how much they dislike him, or call him A BAD FUCKING PERSON - I'm done with it. No, Jim doesn't need anybody to back him up - he doesn't need to waste his time entertaining you fuckers who just take, take, take and take some more either.

That's funny because I come here because of you and Jim, not discounting the handful of others.

Jim doesn't need any back up. Jim goes without saying.

That being said: If you can't even manage to get along with Jim then you might be a piker.

Oh hai guys! What storm of doodoo did I walk into here?

kerosene · 06-07-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Hung Like Jesus hasn't been here since the 14th of May.

Crap, did they leave him up on the cross again?

Nah, he has just been busy with work.

Gravdigr · 06-07-2009, 03:57 PM

(sigh) You people just tickle the shit outta me sometimes!!:p

Shawnee123 · 06-07-2009, 04:45 PM

I like when people cry about other people getting into arguments. Why is that the "just ignore it if you don't like it" advice that one hears all the time applies to everything BUT that? "I hate fights, and read every word of that last one. You people appall me." Wut the pluck?

disclaimer: no actual quotes were repeated in the making of this post

Clodfobble · 06-07-2009, 05:00 PM

There's a difference between ignoring a troll who is spewing nonsense, and ignoring it when two or more people you like and consider your friends are saying terrible things to each other. Strangers fighting = none of my business. My friends fighting = does and should elicit an emotional response in me.

Pie · 06-07-2009, 05:31 PM

Right on, Clod. Tiki didn't rile me up 'cause I don't know the bitch, see?

richlevy · 06-07-2009, 07:54 PM

I have had honest disagreements with peoples positions on many issues. I have also poked fun at some people, mostly in what I hope is understood to be humor. I really do try to keep from labeling people as 'psycho' or 'dumbass' or some other stereotype. In situations where there was a serious potential for a flame war, I have done everything except actually lie to defuse the situation, since I prefer 'no drama'. This has not always worked well.

In the end the Cellar is a reflection of real life. Trying to sort out if one side was being offensive or abusive or the other side was being thin skinned is usually futile and divisive. Sometimes people should just be allowed to argue between themselves without others piling on, even if it's in a public forum.

06-07-2009, 02:55 AM	#976
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06-07-2009, 04:01 AM	#977
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I don't think chat logs should be posted, but there are issues with chat which bother me and are a big part of the reason i don't do it anymore much. One of the biggest issues I have is with people impersonating others. At one stage when I was having a problem with some of the people who chat regularly, I found that someone was pretending to be me and of course causing more confusion and angst for me and some others. I believe this is the sort of childish behaviour which causes trouble on the board from chat. That being said, I still think that chat should just stay as it is. It's just a part of this site now and I think as a general rule we've all adapted to it quite nicely. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-07-2009, 07:28 AM	#979
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Hung Like Jesus hasn't been here since the 14th of May. Crap, did they leave him up on the cross again? But for our feel-good story for tonight, TheAlphaJerk has been around with some bacon porn, so he didn't get all crispy-fried in the fires. Oh, and, wot Dana said. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-07-2009, 11:59 AM	#980
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	What Dana said , May I suggest that things get changed in chat so it logs you in as yer celler name , that would alleviate the goofy name stuff , though it is Fun trying to guess who some random person is . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

06-07-2009, 12:14 PM	#981
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Just remember, that the last few pages of posts in the main chatroom stay up there for anyone to see when they log in hours later. One reason I use my real name as my username is to remind myself that I have to stand up for whatever I say. I have pissed off people here before and I'll do it again. That being said, I support people being anonymous, but not using someone else's Cellar handle. I don't think public chat is private and needs to be treated as such. If someone opens a private chat or sends an e-mail then different rules apply. I like Jim and Jinx and hope that they stay. I occasionally find him annoying and we have had some serious disagreements, but he's a supportive member of the community. Heck, if this were the Love Boat, he'd be the cruise director. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

06-07-2009, 03:57 PM	#986
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	(sigh) You people just tickle the shit outta me sometimes!!:p __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

06-07-2009, 04:45 PM	#987
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I like when people cry about other people getting into arguments. Why is that the "just ignore it if you don't like it" advice that one hears all the time applies to everything BUT that? "I hate fights, and read every word of that last one. You people appall me." Wut the pluck? disclaimer: no actual quotes were repeated in the making of this post __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-07-2009, 05:00 PM	#988
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	There's a difference between ignoring a troll who is spewing nonsense, and ignoring it when two or more people you like and consider your friends are saying terrible things to each other. Strangers fighting = none of my business. My friends fighting = does and should elicit an emotional response in me. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

06-07-2009, 05:31 PM	#989
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Right on, Clod. Tiki didn't rile me up 'cause I don't know the bitch, see? __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

06-07-2009, 07:54 PM	#990
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	I have had honest disagreements with peoples positions on many issues. I have also poked fun at some people, mostly in what I hope is understood to be humor. I really do try to keep from labeling people as 'psycho' or 'dumbass' or some other stereotype. In situations where there was a serious potential for a flame war, I have done everything except actually lie to defuse the situation, since I prefer 'no drama'. This has not always worked well. In the end the Cellar is a reflection of real life. Trying to sort out if one side was being offensive or abusive or the other side was being thin skinned is usually futile and divisive. Sometimes people should just be allowed to argue between themselves without others piling on, even if it's in a public forum. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

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