Reporting non-compliant businesses

08-28-2007, 06:50 PM

Anyone know how?
Business was opened by our mayor, he was also very rude to me about it.
It is a restaurant that was converted from a clothing store, so the architect knew, the engineers knew, the workers knew, the city inspector passed it and the fire chief passed it.
Has changed hands since (it is about a year old), so that means another set of inspections that were "passed".
I am sick of this and want to do something about it.
It is not a historical building and all they had to do was knock down the step (11") and make a ramp out of it.
I am thinking about making one of the old "Whites Only" signs and crossing out the Whites and painting Able-Bodied over it and gluing it to their window with gorilla glue.

Razzmatazz13 · 08-28-2007, 10:35 PM

teehee...I'm not sure how to do it...but I'd be happy to supply you with the glue rk

08-28-2007, 11:00 PM

It is a hot dog restaurant.
I rolled-up to the front door. There is no outside eating area, no awning, nothing but an 11" step.
I knocked on the door. The guy behind the counter came over and opened the door just enough for his head to fit through. (It was our mayor, I did not recognize him at the time, but later realized who it was)
All he said was "Yes?" looking aggravated for being there, and I asked, "Hi, can I get into your shop in your rear entrance?" I was polite and just wanted to know.
He said "nope" closed the door and walked back to the counter and continued to serve people... that was it. The entire front of his store is glass.
I was left outside by myself.
I had to move my hand when he shut the door.
Several people in the store just stared at me with an "OMG" look.
It was pretty shocking.

bluecuracao · 08-28-2007, 11:10 PM

How rude of him. We don't have a ramp in front of our store (historic building), but we've always been happy to help our customers with wheel chairs come in--it doesn't take much effort at all.

08-28-2007, 11:30 PM

I am in an electric, couple of hundred pounds of chair alone.

Elspode · 08-28-2007, 11:36 PM

Money talks. Call a lawyer, sue the fucker, own his hotdog shop.

ADA regs are *not* optional.

Elspode · 08-28-2007, 11:39 PM

ADA page on how to report violations:

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/enforce.htm#anchor218282

bluecuracao · 08-28-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I am in an electric, couple of hundred pounds of chair alone.

We've gotten those in (yeah, takes some effort

).

08-28-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

ADA page on how to report violations:

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/enforce.htm#anchor218282

Thank you very much.

Undertoad · 08-29-2007, 06:52 AM

Ex-Libertarian like me, huh Rob.

hey what is this, some sort of fuse?

wolf · 08-29-2007, 10:35 AM

Did you really want a hotdog that badly, or are you just trying to screw with this guy because you can?

Rexmons · 08-29-2007, 11:19 AM

If I were you first I would shame the mayor first by going to the press, I'm sure your local paper would publish a story like this, they love public interest hooks.

08-29-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Ex-Libertarian like me, huh Rob.

hey what is this, some sort of fuse?

I am a Constitutional Libertarian, not a pure libertarian and feel that laws to ensure some equality should exist.
Again, I do not think a public business should be allowed to exclude blacks, do you? This is the same thing.
A private club, sure, if that is what they want.

My local JC Penny's merchandise is too close together and I asked a manager to get me a 2x cotton Guayabera for me, it was a few racks in. He was doing nothing.
I was told "We don't have time to do your shopping for you. You need to go somewhere else."
How is that different than "We don't serve your kind here?"

The mayor no longer owns the store, which bothers me more because I know it has been inspected and "passed" again.

Quote:

Did you really want a hotdog that badly, or are you just trying to screw with this guy because you can?

So if a business in your town had a sign up that said Whites Only and someone wanted them to change you would assume it was because they wanted a hot dog?
Fucking ignorant.

Undertoad · 08-29-2007, 03:48 PM

Well, this is one of the issues that divide libertarians on principle. If you ask Radar whether the ADA should be law, he will tell you it offends him to his bones and that you can't possibly be libertarian and believe in the ADA.

08-29-2007, 04:09 PM

I have serious issues with how the ADA runs itself. I think it needs revamping to the point of being totally redone.
But, by the same token, does he feel that it is ok to have a business for Whites Only?
If so, then it is compliant with his philosophy.

08-28-2007, 06:50 PM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Reporting non-compliant businesses Anyone know how? Business was opened by our mayor, he was also very rude to me about it. It is a restaurant that was converted from a clothing store, so the architect knew, the engineers knew, the workers knew, the city inspector passed it and the fire chief passed it. Has changed hands since (it is about a year old), so that means another set of inspections that were "passed". I am sick of this and want to do something about it. It is not a historical building and all they had to do was knock down the step (11") and make a ramp out of it. I am thinking about making one of the old "Whites Only" signs and crossing out the Whites and painting Able-Bodied over it and gluing it to their window with gorilla glue.

08-28-2007, 11:36 PM	#6
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Money talks. Call a lawyer, sue the fucker, own his hotdog shop. ADA regs are not optional. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-28-2007, 11:39 PM	#7
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	ADA page on how to report violations: http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/enforce.htm#anchor218282 __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-29-2007, 10:35 AM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Did you really want a hotdog that badly, or are you just trying to screw with this guy because you can? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-29-2007, 11:19 AM	#12
Rexmons - Kavkaz United - Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 613	If I were you first I would shame the mayor first by going to the press, I'm sure your local paper would publish a story like this, they love public interest hooks. __________________ "Life's a bitch but God forbid the bitch divorce me..."

08-28-2007, 10:35 PM	#2
Razzmatazz13 Vicariously, I live... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,221	teehee...I'm not sure how to do it...but I'd be happy to supply you with the glue rk

08-28-2007, 11:00 PM	#3
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	It is a hot dog restaurant. I rolled-up to the front door. There is no outside eating area, no awning, nothing but an 11" step. I knocked on the door. The guy behind the counter came over and opened the door just enough for his head to fit through. (It was our mayor, I did not recognize him at the time, but later realized who it was) All he said was "Yes?" looking aggravated for being there, and I asked, "Hi, can I get into your shop in your rear entrance?" I was polite and just wanted to know. He said "nope" closed the door and walked back to the counter and continued to serve people... that was it. The entire front of his store is glass. I was left outside by myself. I had to move my hand when he shut the door. Several people in the store just stared at me with an "OMG" look. It was pretty shocking.

08-28-2007, 11:10 PM	#4
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	How rude of him. We don't have a ramp in front of our store (historic building), but we've always been happy to help our customers with wheel chairs come in--it doesn't take much effort at all.

08-28-2007, 11:30 PM	#5
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I am in an electric, couple of hundred pounds of chair alone.

08-29-2007, 06:52 AM	#10
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Ex-Libertarian like me, huh Rob. hey what is this, some sort of fuse?

08-29-2007, 03:48 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well, this is one of the issues that divide libertarians on principle. If you ask Radar whether the ADA should be law, he will tell you it offends him to his bones and that you can't possibly be libertarian and believe in the ADA.

08-29-2007, 04:09 PM	#15
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I have serious issues with how the ADA runs itself. I think it needs revamping to the point of being totally redone. But, by the same token, does he feel that it is ok to have a business for Whites Only? If so, then it is compliant with his philosophy.

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