Orlando - Page 4

xoxoxoBruce · 06-17-2016, 12:03 PM

Back in the day, before LG or LGB or LGBT, Q covered it all. I'd read some were pushing to revive Q and wondered if it was an attempt to promote unity and discourage infighting. Didn't know it had been tacked onto the banner though. I figured Q was as clear as mud, but it covers the ground, without requiring anyone to reveal personal preferences. But I was told it generalized, grouped people together that didn't want to be, so I guess it's a double edged sword.

I really don't want to be an asshole but when people like Libby barge in and tell me what I must do and must say, they can just fuck right off.

Sure would be nice if nobody felt the need to hang their identity on a letter, and move that letter to just a footnote.
Instead of being a Whitewall Car, just a Car that happens to have whitewalls.

Undertoad · 06-17-2016, 12:22 PM

Is the motive bigotry?

Happy Monkey · 06-17-2016, 12:52 PM

Of course.

And sure, one can always have a purely logical "only the Shadow knows what lurks in the hearts of men" argument, or quibble with the wording, that "the motive" implies "the only motive" and there were surely other contributing factors, but that doesn't negate the bigotry, it only affects its flavor.

Undertoad · 06-17-2016, 02:13 PM

So you figure he wasn't personally gay.

Gravdigr · 06-17-2016, 02:37 PM

I'm not sure the shooter himself ~~knows~~ knew if he was gay or not.

Happy Monkey · 06-17-2016, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

So you figure he wasn't personally gay.

No, I think there's a reasonable chance he was, which would cause the bigotry to fuel self-hatred and misplaced anger.

Happy Monkey · 06-17-2016, 04:53 PM

Why We Should Politicize the Orlando Massacre

Quote:

Originally Posted by GABRIEL ARANA JUNE 16, 2016, NYTimes Opinion Section

But it is only the most privileged among us who have the luxury of divorcing politics from everyday life. Those of us in the L.G.B.T. community know better. Politics is how we won the right to be free from discrimination in government jobs, to have sex without fear of criminal prosecution, to serve in the military, to get married and adopt children. In about 28 states, we are still fighting to outlaw discrimination in employment. And transgender Americans are still fighting for the right to pee in peace.

To think that a mass shooting at a gay nightclub filled with Latinos and committed by a Muslim-American sympathetic to religious extremists is beyond the scope of politics is absurd on its face — you couldn’t dream up a scenario more rife with political implications. But it is especially absurd to those of us in the L.G.B.T. community, whose very existence has been politicized for decades.

monster · 06-17-2016, 05:00 PM

Here the Q is usually taken to mean Questioning

sexobon · 06-17-2016, 05:21 PM

LGBTQ?

monster · 06-17-2016, 06:15 PM

minimum 17 points with no blank tiles.

infinite monkey · 06-17-2016, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon

LGBTQ?

QTIP?

sexobon · 06-17-2016, 06:37 PM

LGBTQTIPDQ?

Aliantha · 06-20-2016, 03:35 AM

Straight. Not straight.

That is really how I define sexuality in my own mind simply because there are a lot of straight people with weird (to me) ideas about their sexuality, and there are a lot of not straight people with weird (to me) ideas about their sexuality.

Maybe it should just be sexual or not sexual?

I know I'm totally un PC by saying this, but really, can't people just be who they are without having to be defined by a letter or word?

Anyway, this piece of shit from Orlando was nothing but a biggotted shithole who should never have had access to that kind of weapon. The sooner you lot sort your shit out the better for all of you.

Or just hurry up and kill yourselves off so the Aussies can run the world instead, but with better leaders. Maybe like me.

Oh, we have a redneck idiot running for a seat in the Senate this coming federal election. Her name is Pauline Hanson. Her and Trump would get along famously. She's almost as dumb as he is.

Griff · 06-20-2016, 06:17 AM

An idiot politician!? Say it ain't so!

You Aussies can have the planet, running the world turns out to be harder than we were told.

tw · 06-20-2016, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

SHer and Trump would get along famously. She's almost as dumb as he is.

Is she dumb? Or is she so smart as to easily recruit the dumb?

06-17-2016, 12:03 PM	#46
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Back in the day, before LG or LGB or LGBT, Q covered it all. I'd read some were pushing to revive Q and wondered if it was an attempt to promote unity and discourage infighting. Didn't know it had been tacked onto the banner though. I figured Q was as clear as mud, but it covers the ground, without requiring anyone to reveal personal preferences. But I was told it generalized, grouped people together that didn't want to be, so I guess it's a double edged sword. I really don't want to be an asshole but when people like Libby barge in and tell me what I must do and must say, they can just fuck right off. Sure would be nice if nobody felt the need to hang their identity on a letter, and move that letter to just a footnote. Instead of being a Whitewall Car, just a Car that happens to have whitewalls. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-17-2016, 12:52 PM	#48
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Of course. And sure, one can always have a purely logical "only the Shadow knows what lurks in the hearts of men" argument, or quibble with the wording, that "the motive" implies "the only motive" and there were surely other contributing factors, but that doesn't negate the bigotry, it only affects its flavor. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-17-2016, 02:37 PM	#50
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	I'm not sure the shooter himself ~~knows~~ knew if he was gay or not. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

06-17-2016, 05:00 PM	#53
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Here the Q is usually taken to mean Questioning __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

06-17-2016, 06:15 PM	#55
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	minimum 17 points with no blank tiles. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

06-17-2016, 12:22 PM	#47
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Is the motive bigotry?

06-17-2016, 02:13 PM	#49
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	So you figure he wasn't personally gay.

06-17-2016, 05:21 PM	#54
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	LGBTQ?

06-17-2016, 06:37 PM	#57
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	LGBTQTIPDQ?

06-20-2016, 03:35 AM	#58
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Straight. Not straight. That is really how I define sexuality in my own mind simply because there are a lot of straight people with weird (to me) ideas about their sexuality, and there are a lot of not straight people with weird (to me) ideas about their sexuality. Maybe it should just be sexual or not sexual? I know I'm totally un PC by saying this, but really, can't people just be who they are without having to be defined by a letter or word? Anyway, this piece of shit from Orlando was nothing but a biggotted shithole who should never have had access to that kind of weapon. The sooner you lot sort your shit out the better for all of you. Or just hurry up and kill yourselves off so the Aussies can run the world instead, but with better leaders. Maybe like me. Oh, we have a redneck idiot running for a seat in the Senate this coming federal election. Her name is Pauline Hanson. Her and Trump would get along famously. She's almost as dumb as he is. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

06-20-2016, 06:17 AM	#59
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	An idiot politician!? Say it ain't so! You Aussies can have the planet, running the world turns out to be harder than we were told. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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