Next Threat; Data Manipulation

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

You have quoted from the wrong model year citing a completely different transmission. GM only offered automatics when and to subvert EPA mileage tests.

No, dumbfuck. First, you didn't cite a year, as usual with your lies. Second, the EPA requires EVERY combination of engine/transmission available in EVERY model to be tested. There's no, well this engine/transmission combo is OK in this car, so we'll use it in that car too. The window sticker will reflect the test results for what's in THAT vehicle, tested in THAT model. It ain't 1966 where they can take any car they make and drop in any engine they want. ANY change to the driveline requires at least a million dollars and a year or more lead time, in testing and certification by the government. That's the reason they built my truck for two years before they could put in the engine they wanted to from the git go.

There's no way they can only submit automatic Corvettes, or anything else, unless that's all they sell. Yes, they modified automatics to increase mileage/cut emissions also, just like the skip-shift sticks so fucking what, it was well known, and well documented (and reviled).

But mileage is only a small part of the requirements, emissions for hot and cold start play a significant role in the combination of goals the makers must meet. My Ex had a four cylinder, stick shift, station wagon, with a vacuum breaker, that would kill engine vacuum when shifting so it didn't suck fuel when it wasn't going to use it. Yes it had a carburetor, and stick your 1930s/40s, aircraft fuel injection technology up your ass. That shit only ran acceptably in a small RPM range and was dirty as hell.

The mechanical fuel injection in cars was just as bad and needed expensive maintenance at least monthly, more often if you used it for anything but racing a stick shift so you could keep the engine in a small RPM power band.. and it was still dirty. It wasn't until hardened electronic fuel injection was perfected, not invented, perfected, that it became a superior option. That perfecting was one of the reasons $3000 cars are now $30000.


Your poorly conceived bullshit conspiracy theories don't fit the law or the facts.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, dumbfuck. First, you didn't cite a year, as usual with your lies.

Of course I did not. Because you were supposed to know this stuff before posting your cum in the board - you dic. Now when you decide to return to an adult attitude, then I need not continue using the language that only the dumbest among us appear to understand. You do not even have to apologize to me even though you owe me one.

Signed - the adult here.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Fuck you, I'm out.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by tw

... Now when you decide to return to an adult attitude, then I need not continue using the language that only the dumbest among us appear to understand. ...

You understand it: that's why you use it.

Originally Posted by tw

Signed - the developmentally impaired adult here.

FIFY

Tw is still smarting over my proving him wrong, beyond a shadow of a doubt, about Hillary and her emails. Now, xoB having proved tw wrong again so soon afterwards just puts another nail in the coffin of a pathological liar.

OTOH, tw makes others here feel good about themselves knowing they're not tw. He serves a useful purpose by reminding them their lot in life could be worse.

Therefore, we accept tw's latent apology and are moving forward.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Fuck you, I'm out.

You do have a funny way of apologizing.

[Undertoad]

Bruce you don't understand. None of this could possibly have happened.

Audi/VW CEO Martin Winterkorn has no business education at all. He is a world class representative of the management approach where "product people" and engineers become leaders. Of a car company!

PhD in Metallurgy. Lead engineer. Came up through -- of all things! -- Quality Assurance! Where he was elected to the board as a QA representative. Eventually he would come to represent Technical Development on the board, and eventually R&D, and then he became CEO.

He has ZERO time in accounting, marketing, HR or finance.

This extremely ideal CEO has been making the top decisions at VW for over a decade. So all of this is entirely impossible.




http://www.volkswagenag.com/content/...interkorn.html

Winterkorn was born on May 24, 1947, in Leonberg (Germany). He studied Metallurgy and Metal Physics at the University of Stuttgart from 1966 to 1973. From 1973 to 1977 Winterkorn was a PhD student at the Max-Planck-Institute for Metal Research, where he received his doctorate in 1977.

Winterkorn’s professional career began in 1977 as a specialist assistant in the research division "Process Engineering" at Robert Bosch GmbH. From 1978 to 1981 he headed the refrigerant compressor development group "Substances and Processes" at Robert Bosch GmbH and Bosch-Siemens-Hausgeräte GmbH.

In 1981 Winterkorn joined AUDI AG as assistant to the Member of the Board for Quality Assurance. Two years later, he assumed responsibility for "Measuring Technology/Sampling and Test Laboratory" at Audi. At the beginning of 1988, he was made departmental head of "Central Quality Assurance", and in 1990 Head of Audi Quality Assurance.

In 1993 Winterkorn became Head of "Group Quality Assurance" at Volkswagen AG and was appointed General Representative of Volkswagen AG in March 1994. He was additionally responsible for Volkswagen Group Product Management from June 1995. In January 1996 Winterkorn took over as Member of the Board of Management for "Technical Development" at the Volkswagen brand. From July 2000 he was Member of the Board of Management of Volkswagen AG responsible for Research and Development.

Winterkorn became Chairman of the Board of Management of AUDI AG on March 1, 2002. In addition to this, Winterkorn assumed responsibility for Technical Development at AUDI AG on January 1, 2003. In his capacity as Chairman of the Board of Management of AUDI AG, Winterkorn was also a Member of the Board of Management of Volkswagen AG.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Bruce you don't understand. None of this could possibly have happened.

Lee Iacocca also was a car guy. Developed the Mustang. Went to Chrysler to save the company and then develop the miin-van (that Henry Ford kept stifling). However living in the ethersphere can corrupt. After ten years, Iacocca told Robert Lutz that he could have the Neon or the Presidency of Chrysler. IOW he was now acting as a bean counter. Robert Lutz, one of Chryslers better car guys, took the Neon and then left Chrysler - having been told he had no future under the 'converted to MBA thnking' Iacocca.

It remains a major problem in industry. Living in the ethersphere can corrupt product people. Same happened to Ken Olson of DEC resulting in a company that ignored the internet resulting in a major corporate downfall.

We know Winterkorn was also corrupted. He was saying things similar to what Fiorina and Wantanabe said. Their objective changed from making better products to increasing profits and sales so as to be #1. That lies only comes from people brainwashed in the business schools (ie Fiorina) or from people corrupted by business school concepts found in the ethersphere (Iacocca).

[classicman]

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