|
Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
04-13-2012, 12:48 PM | #16 |
Snowflake
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
|
Do you also like to punch people in the face? I looove that!
In a woman.
__________________
****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
04-13-2012, 12:49 PM | #17 |
Person who doesn't update the user title
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 13,002
|
I do I do I do love to punch people in the face!
|
04-13-2012, 12:51 PM | #18 |
Snowflake
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
|
Yay! Can you and I be awesome together?
(Not like a date or anything, like "friends" awesome.)
__________________
****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
04-13-2012, 12:56 PM | #19 |
Person who doesn't update the user title
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 13,002
|
Sure thing! It's going to be legen...(wait for it)...dary!
|
04-13-2012, 01:18 PM | #21 | |
I think this line's mostly filler.
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DC
Posts: 13,575
|
Quote:
I was very lucky in many ways. Given the advantages that luck has provided me, I would have had to make unusually bad choices to end up destitute. The reverse is true for many.
__________________
_________________ |...............| We live in the nick of times. | Len 17, Wid 3 | |_______________| [pics] |
|
04-13-2012, 01:22 PM | #22 | |
We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 25,964
|
Well said that Monkey.
__________________
Quote:
|
|
04-13-2012, 01:50 PM | #23 |
polaroid of perfection
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 24,185
|
Hard effort = hard work. That doesn't always mean lots of money.
Smart choices might not always be available/ understandable. My Grandad worked hard all his life. He worked until the mandated retirement age. He expected the Government to take care of him. That was the promise he had all his life. And yes, they did. He was taken care of. He had a council bungalow, social care visits, a cleaner once a week and after he was put in hospital he had hospice care. He was happy with what he had, and with what he received. He lived worry-free in his last few years, although that was mostly because Mum had great advice from people who knew the system in making sure he got what he was entitled to. And because we made damn well sure we stepped up as a family. Plenty of evidence all over these pages. Grandad was lucky. He lived through The Blitz. Married his first love. Raised two children even though his family (property owners) never managed to claim back what they lost in the War. Moved back to Central London into Govt sponsored housing. Took us (grand)kids in during the school holidays so the 'rents could keep working during the school holidays Later was able to "swap" to council housing in Aylesbury to be close to Mum (Uncle Jim moved to Australia) To do this he had to move in with us and leave Nanny behind. He had to share a house with his daughter's family and work as a hospital porter. Lucky Jim. The man never had anything to spare. He worked hard all his life. He was functionally illiterate. People who don't make it into the Times £100m list aren't failures. They didn TRY less than anyone else. Not everyone who works a low wage job is dolescum. I don't know of anyone in my family who chose an easy path, or did not work as hard as they could. But the world needs some people not to advance for wiping up blood in a hospital corrider to having a sandwich chain outside said hospital or writing an award winning play about it. Doesn't it?
__________________
Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac |
04-13-2012, 01:56 PM | #24 | |
Snowflake
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
|
Quote:
Sundae, I was just responding to a subject that was already on the table. I didn't intend to disrespect your grandfather. I actually don't think I mentioned what you're adressing, i.e. a value judgment conflating material possessions and human worth, but if I did it wasn't intentional. And I don't subscribe to that. One of my closest friends is a guy who makes just enough money to get by. We have beers together and agree on almost everything. He doesn't have alot, but he pays his own way and doesn't ask for anything from anybody.
__________________
****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio Last edited by Flint; 04-13-2012 at 02:01 PM. |
|
04-13-2012, 01:58 PM | #25 | |
We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 25,964
|
Sundae...Flint just called your Grandad a pikey.
__________________
Quote:
|
|
04-13-2012, 02:03 PM | #26 |
Snowflake
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
Posts: 13,136
|
Get thee gone, devil woman.
__________________
****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
04-13-2012, 02:03 PM | #27 |
polaroid of perfection
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 24,185
|
Given you never met him I guessed that to be the case
I think I have a chip on my shoulder about family members that pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. My Great-Grandmother used to load up the pram with the children and take them to Tower Bridge. She'd been advised that my Grandad's weak chest needed sea air. They couldn't afford to go to the seaside, and the Thames being a tidal river was the best she could do. And that was a bloody long walk as it was! No wonder Grandad supported the NHS.
__________________
Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac |
04-13-2012, 02:04 PM | #28 |
polaroid of perfection
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 24,185
|
Am I bovvered?
__________________
Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac |
04-13-2012, 02:05 PM | #29 | |
We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 25,964
|
Is it though?
__________________
Quote:
|
|
04-13-2012, 02:07 PM | #30 |
polaroid of perfection
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 24,185
|
Look in my face.
__________________
Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|