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Old 08-08-2018, 09:16 PM   #76
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I do, you get to divide up my vote with everyone who votes, for the amount of power in a single vote.

So you get 1/130000000th of a vote more power. That's 0.0000000077 votes more power you get.

Use it wisely, or don't use it at all. Nobody will notice either way.

It's all rich irony as for years and years and years, people told me I was "throwing my vote away" by voting the way I did. So yeah, you throw it away for me. Do me a service.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:32 PM   #77
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You underestimate the propaganda value.

Fact: If you had voted in the last Presidential election, you would have voted for Trump.

There's nothing you can say or do to disprove that statement; because, you didn't vote. Let's give it some oomph;

Fact: Undertoad, who is seeking the truth, would have voted for Trump in the last election had he voted since Trump was truly the best choice.

Leave the driving to us.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:40 PM   #78
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Yes and if you were looking to rape a young child, you would have chosen a male.

There's nothing you can say or do to disprove that statement; because, you didn't rape a child.

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Old 08-08-2018, 10:01 PM   #79
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You equate voting for Trump to raping a child? Is that how you feel, like those who voted for Trump raped you.

If you vote in the next Presidential election, you will vote for Trump.

(Stockholm syndrome)

All like you are just waiting to come out of the woodwork to get true blue Trump reelected.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:56 AM   #80
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Yes and if you rape a young child next year, you will rape a boy.

dude don't just reframe the analogy again once it is shown to be broken
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:37 PM   #81
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Why not

If Trump runs for reelection, you wouldn't vote for anyone else. That means something to people. OTOH, your retort is meaningless as it's not reality based.

You're an enabler; but, more importantly, you provide a rationale for others to become abstaining enablers so that power shifts by changing the level of entitlement by numbers.

Thank you for your un-contribution. Good day.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:55 PM   #82
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you provide a rationale for others to become abstaining enablers so that power shifts by changing the level of entitlement by numbers
So, the real danger is other people start to not vote because I have convinced them?

Jesus, I didn't know I had such power! Can I convince them to suck my dick instead? It takes less time and at least then I would get something for my amaaaaazing influence, which I was previously unaware of!

I would even put up a booth and a curtain if people want to suck me off. Can we make it happen the first Tuesday of November?
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:01 PM   #83
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:15 PM   #84
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Our government officials are elected by the average American.
You know, someone who has a high-school education and $30,000 in earnings, of which 30% goes to taxes and 30% to housing and health-care costs, and are told repeatedly that people like them, the majority of the population, have no future in a knowledge economy.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:38 PM   #85
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Toad, I love ya, really, I do, BUT...

...you gotta lotta nerve, man.

You give me grief about my anarchic ways, but you can't even be bothered to participate in the operation of the 'representative government' you put so much stock in.

Understand: I don't care if you vote or not (voting is mostly Hobson's Choice). By my standards: you're fine.

By your own...

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Old 08-09-2018, 10:14 PM   #86
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Lots of ways to participate man. This is one of them!

Leave the vote to others who are more informed. That's a sensible civic approach, really --

I tellya what, I would vote on local. School board and township, that I'd vote on. Because you could probably even meet the people running, and the issues would be things you were aware of, and that actually mattered. And the vote would be meaningful, it would be less than a 0.000000077th impact.

But I'm not informed about any of that, and I'm a renter. Shrug
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:53 PM   #87
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Okay, but in the same way that we have a representative democracy because we can't all be informed on all the issues all the time, couldn't you theoretically have a representative voting advisor? Like one person or organization or whatever that you decide you trust, and just do whatever that person/organization tells you to do? Or would you say you inherently can't trust anyone who would pick from either of the two major parties?
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:51 PM   #88
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I did give a vote as a christmas present once.

It's easy to get proxy votes. Simply by standing outside the polling place, and politely asking everyone who enters to vote for your candidate, you can get a ton of votes. You can sway a precinct.

Just think of all the people who have been told it's their civic duty to vote, and do it, but who have no idea who the candidates are.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:34 AM   #89
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So you are participating in representative democracy just not voting.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:37 AM   #90
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But I'm not informed about any of that, and I'm a renter. Shrug
You're just a renter of life. Perhaps you don't have much to say that's worth listening to about anything.
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