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Old 02-05-2011, 07:03 PM   #106
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This is a really old argument, and one we're all tired of. Some people have things in common, including points of view and also perception of data, others do not. This creates a divide, and it's only natural for people to defend the position of the person who's views most closely resemble their own. It's a cultural notion, and one that human society is based on.

The Cellar, and every other internet community is nothing more than a reflection of society at large. The only difference is that it's less possible to avoid those people who's opinions differ because they're all mixed up in amongst the people with whom you happen to agree.

I do think there have been some pretty unfair things said during the course of this thread, and people have sunk to a level which is quite disgraceful, but it's definitely not Classic alone. It takes more than one person to have an argument, and if it's the same players all the time, then there's more than one person responsible.
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:18 PM   #107
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No, what we have is a poster who got all shitty FOR NO REASON. They got called out for it. Self monitoring at its best.
Shawnee was pretty blunt about how she felt and maybe not very diplomatic, but I don't see it as getting shitty for no reason. I didn't see it as jumping all over Juniper. Juniper, in fact, totally jumped Shawnee's ass after taking her post way too personally.
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:41 PM   #108
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So anyhoo, I'm on the beginning of my second week of celexa and I'm just starting to ramp up the dose and I can't say I feel much of anything yet apart from some very mild side effects. A slight uptick in energy/mood but nothing to write home about. I do feel a bit spacey at times, I wonder if that will dissipate. My buddy told me to expect 4-6 weeks before things really start rocking.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:20 PM   #109
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but but but, foot foot foot.... isn't 4-6 weeks so long that we'll be in Spring and everyone will feel better? And it seems a long time to me. Too long to wait for a drug to have an effect. I've never heard of anything so slow to act, plus isn't that a little too long to risk with depression?

But the two weeks you mentioned earlier seems reasonable and you're only at the start of the second week..... so here's hoping you start to feel a breakthrough in the next few days.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:42 PM   #110
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More like 8 weeks for me, but that may be more anxiety-related.

Very important to wean on and, if you need a change, to wean OFF the meds slowly.

It's not completely understood why it takes a long time. The brain chemistry is changed quickly, but it takes longer for moods and emotions and such to be affected.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:05 PM   #111
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4-6 weeks is about normal.

I started feeling better in two weeks and great in four.

hang in there foot. It will get better.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:16 PM   #112
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wow, that is a scarily long time!
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:47 AM   #113
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I have to add my experience to the pot - my improvement was slow and steady - I think the full effect kicked in at about 3 months. Which is to say it was taking effect, but I didn't realise it for a while because the improvement was gradual.

First time I took anti-depressants I wanted to come off them after two weeks because they made no difference. It was only then my GP thought to tell me about how long it takes to have an effect...!
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:11 PM   #114
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My new psychologist and psychiatrist both told me independently and without prompting that it is my work that makes me sick. They said that some people are lucky and find a box they fit well, others can compromise and be happy, while others can't fit in the box without cutting their toes off. They said I'm quite obviously in that last group, and I need to change my life.

Trying to figure out what to do with this is pretty stressful. On top of that, the medications I'm on now make me feel like shit physically.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:22 PM   #115
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I really think niche finding is critical for emotional health. I think I have the home part figured out, but work is always gonna be a problem.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:30 PM   #116
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Agreed. It's either niche finding or an unstoppable ability to rationalize, justify, and self-delude.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:33 PM   #117
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my work made me sick. (sicker?)

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Old 02-06-2011, 01:38 PM   #118
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I've found my niche and now never want to move.
I just need to work on the financial side of things - it simply does not pay a living wage.
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:37 PM   #119
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Sundae, around here someone with the type of experience you're about to gain can command a premium as a babysitter for families who need someone they can trust. You might even find that Tiger himself has a need for after-school care, and no doubt the parents would be thrilled to have someone who is already experienced with their particular son available for hire, at least for evenings out. I tried to hire the paraprofessionals in my son's class, but sadly they all had children of their own and were rarely available. Anyway, if not him, there are plenty of others. It's just a question of finding the right messageboards and advertising in the right places.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #120
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This thread is a year old now, and I'm not resurrecting it to get
Dwellars to post again their personal experiences.
Instead, I wonder if others feel that pharmaceutical companies
are feeding the flames of mental illness primarily for $ profit.

The article below bothers me... because I don't believe it.
I find it difficult to believe 12% of the population NEED to be
on prescription drugs, just to carry on with their lives.

Washington Post
David Brown
January18, 2012

Government survey finds that 5 percent of Americans suffer from a ‘serious mental illness’
Quote:
About 20 percent of American adults suffer some sort of mental illness each year,
and about 5 percent experience a serious disorder that disrupts work, family or social life,
according to a government report released Thursday.<snip>
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Prescription medicine was the most common treatment, used by 12 percent of adults.
Between 2002 and 2010, the percentage of adults getting outpatient counseling fell slightly (to 7 percent),
while the fraction of adults using a prescription drug went up.
<snip>

Daniel J. Carlat, a Massachusetts psychiatrist whose 2010 book
“Unhinged: The Trouble With Psychiatry” criticized the profession’s overreliance on prescription drugs,
agreed “that there is a kind of alarmist quality to these reports.”
The disorders found could include spider-phobia and staying upset
for a long time after arguing with one’s spouse.
<snip>
Your thoughts ????
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