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Old 12-05-2016, 06:48 PM   #211
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2H2O is Hydrogen Peroxide.
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:06 PM   #212
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It must be the perspective making the tractor appear so large. Regulations on dimension are carved into stone, so it cannot be larger than regular semi tractor units. 13' 6" is still the max height; anything larger would strike low overpasses or snag overhead wire runs. Neither situation is a good thing.
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Old 12-06-2016, 12:13 PM   #213
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It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern. I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
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Yup, just water vapor coming out.
Then, what is the concern?
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Old 12-06-2016, 01:45 PM   #214
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:29 PM   #215
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Old 12-08-2016, 01:04 PM   #216
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BOOM!!
Does the water explode?

I'm confused.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:34 PM   #217
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No, but any loose hydrogen from the tank/delivery system is dangerous. When I put in a new water heater I was getting what I thought was entrained air bubbles from the faucet. I got curious and ran the water in the bathroom sink for a minute, then shut it off and flicked my Bic. The fireball was three feet high. The sacrificial anodes that come in the heater reacted with my water when it was heated, and produced hydrogen. I read burning hydrogen isn't visible, but the explosion certainly is.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:56 PM   #218
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It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern. I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
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Does that apply to our truck's situation. I'm too lazy to find out.
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Yup, just water vapor coming out.
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Then, what is the concern?
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BOOM!!
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Does the water explode?

I'm confused.
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No, but any loose hydrogen from the tank/delivery system is dangerous. When I put in a new water heater I was getting what I thought was entrained air bubbles from the faucet. I got curious and ran the water in the bathroom sink for a minute, then shut it off and flicked my Bic. The fireball was three feet high. The sacrificial anodes that come in the heater reacted with my water when it was heated, and produced hydrogen. I read burning hydrogen isn't visible, but the explosion certainly is.
Why is what comes out of the exhaust pipe the concern if it's just water vapor? What, coming out of the tailpipe, is gonna go boom? If it's just water vapor coming out of the tailpipe, how is it gonna explode?

I'm only more confused.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:20 PM   #219
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I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
If you're going to switch from diesel to something else you have to ask if that something else is going to make nastier exhaust. With hydrogen the answer is no, it's just water vapor.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:37 PM   #220
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:47 PM   #221
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What don't you understand? Hydrogen is an extremely volatile fuel to handle and transport, but once it's burned it's just water vapor.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:08 PM   #222
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Hey.
What comes out of the stacks/tailpipe is just water, water vapor. Period. Not explosive, just water.

However, the fuel, hydrogen, is highly flammable of course. LEAKS of hydrogen, could be trouble, like, the Hindenburg.

Also, leaking diesel, easy to notice, hard to ignite leaking gasoline, easy to notice, easy to ignite. Leaking hydrogen, impossible to notice, and depending on the concentration, explosively easy to ignite or impossible to ignite.

Just crossed convo threads, tailpipe vs leaks.
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Old 12-09-2016, 12:39 PM   #223
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It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern.
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Old 12-09-2016, 12:46 PM   #224
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Old 12-09-2016, 05:48 PM   #225
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Perhaps I can clarify:

Gasoline is red and hydrogen is blue.
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