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Old 03-18-2017, 05:48 AM   #1
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Windows 10

I've never been a computer buff and I doubt I'll ever will be but I've evolved with Microsoft through windows 95 and onwards through XP, Vista Windows 7 and now Windows 10.
I can say that Windows 10 is the worst system Microsoft have ever come up with.(I missed windows 8 and 8.1 thank God)
Everything is hidden trying to navigate through the menu's is a nightmare am I glad I bought windows 10 for dummies even trying to find where the page showing you where the disc drives were was a lengthy process I'm sorry but the 700 odd I spent on my new laptop with this frustrating system has been a waste of money.
has anyone out there had the same gripes with Windows 10?

Any comments or advice would be gratefully received
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:24 PM   #2
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You'll learn to love it.

It is a huge adjustment from Win7 / WinXP, certainly. Practically everything you are used to using is still there, albeit in a different box, in a different cupboard, in a different room. I find the search bar very useful for finding stuff. And then a right click and choose Pin to Taskbar lets me find it easily the next time.

It's objectively better with respect to compatibility, security, and stability. I agree that those aren't top of mind when you're looking for your damn program icon. Still, a better product.
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:29 PM   #3
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You'll learn to love it.
Still waiting, it's awkward, full of 'features' that are joust bloat as I never use them, tries to do things it's way, instead of a logical way.

My work computer is Windows 7, much better than 8 or 10
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:43 PM   #4
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Awhile back I posted this list of shit in Windows 10 you can get rid of. I can't vouch for it's goodness as I just copied it from elsewhere and don't have 10. I remember Happy Monkey questioned one of the items but for what it's worth.

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http://www.bhmag.fr/astuces/comment-...ndows-10-28226
http://imgur.com/gallery/m08HHLj

Hi imgurians ! After posting a way to force your computer to update to Windows 10 (http://imgur.com/gallery/96I8rKx), I'm gonna show you how to protect your personnal information. As you may know, Windows 10 is free (you have 1 year to download it). So many people upgrades their computer. But the Truth about Windows 10 is that there's a lot of process that retrieve your personnal data to "enhance the experience on the Windows OS". So how to block that ?

Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc . You will find a file named hosts . Open the file with Notepad (You must execute Notepad as an administrator) and add this following lines:

127.0.0.1 local
127.0.0.1 vortex.data.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
127.0.0.1 oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
127.0.0.1 sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
127.0.0.1 watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
127.0.0.1 redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 choice.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
127.0.0.1 df.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 telemetry.appex.bing.net
127.0.0.1 telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
127.0.0.1 settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 survey.watson.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 watson.live.com
127.0.0.1 watson.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 compatexchange.cloudapp.net
127.0.0.1 cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
127.0.0.1 a-0001.a-msedge.net
127.0.0.1 statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
127.0.0.1 sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
127.0.0.1 fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
127.0.0.1 diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 corp.sts.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 pre.footprintpredict.com
127.0.0.1 i1.services.social.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
127.0.0.1 feedback.windows.com
127.0.0.1 feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
127.0.0.1 feedback.search.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 rad.msn.com
127.0.0.1 preview.msn.com
127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ads.msn.com
127.0.0.1 ads1.msads.net
127.0.0.1 ads1.msn.com
127.0.0.1 a.ads1.msn.com
127.0.0.1 a.ads2.msn.com
127.0.0.1 adnexus.net
127.0.0.1 adnxs.com
127.0.0.1 aidps.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1 apps.skype.com
127.0.0.1 az361816.vo.msecnd.net
127.0.0.1 az512334.vo.msecnd.net
127.0.0.1 a.rad.msn.com
127.0.0.1 a.ads2.msads.net
127.0.0.1 ac3.msn.com
127.0.0.1 aka-cdn-ns.adtech.de
127.0.0.1 b.rad.msn.com
127.0.0.1 b.ads2.msads.net
127.0.0.1 b.ads1.msn.com
127.0.0.1 bs.serving-sys.com
127.0.0.1 c.msn.com
127.0.0.1 cdn.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1 cds26.ams9.msecn.net
127.0.0.1 c.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1 db3aqu.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1 ec.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1 flex.msn.com
127.0.0.1 g.msn.com
127.0.0.1 h2.msn.com
127.0.0.1 h1.msn.com
127.0.0.1 live.rads.msn.com
127.0.0.1 msntest.serving-sys.com
127.0.0.1 m.adnxs.com
127.0.0.1 m.hotmail.com
127.0.0.1 preview.msn.com
127.0.0.1 pricelist.skype.com
127.0.0.1 rad.msn.com
127.0.0.1 rad.live.com
127.0.0.1 secure.flashtalking.com
127.0.0.1 static.2mdn.net
127.0.0.1 s.gateway.messenger.live.com
127.0.0.1 secure.adnxs.com
127.0.0.1 sO.2mdn.net
127.0.0.1 ui.skype.com
127.0.0.1 www.msftncsi.com
127.0.0.1 msftncsi.com
127.0.0.1 view.atdmt.com

When it's done, register and reboot your computer ! I hope this post is usefull, and sorry if I make some English mistakes !
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:09 PM   #5
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Blocking the operating system's manufacturer is a bad strategy. You need updates for whatever you install, or you are putting yourself at great risk.

(And really, in the connected times, you are no longer running software, you are entering into a partnership with a major company, and becoming part of their ecosystem. If you don't want to do that, just run Linux. It's free.)
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:59 PM   #6
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(And really, in the connected times, you are no longer running software, you are entering into a partnership with a major company, and becoming part of their ecosystem.)
That's a brilliant description.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:00 PM   #7
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I'm with UT.... run Linux. I recommend Linux Mint for most users. It's based on the popular and stable Ubuntu kernel, has a huge developer community and with the GNU and Cinnamon options, a familiar appearance. It does take a little getting used-to because the system commands are named differently than Windows, and there will be a certain amount of tweaking to get it properly configured to your particular system, but finding answers to most common issues is as easy as Googling with the right terms. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:02 PM   #8
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You'll learn to love it.

It is a huge adjustment from Win7 / WinXP, certainly. Practically everything you are used to using is still there, albeit in a different box, in a different cupboard, in a different room. I find the search bar very useful for finding stuff. And then a right click and choose Pin to Taskbar lets me find it easily the next time.

It's objectively better with respect to compatibility, security, and stability. I agree that those aren't top of mind when you're looking for your damn program icon. Still, a better product.
In a Stockholm Syndrome kind of way? My company spent serious $$ getting rid of it when people had "accidentally' upgraded. Ee all run on 7 which gets The job done. 10 is The Sux.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:22 PM   #9
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yes, monster. familiarity breeds content.

it's true, I've grown to like the environment I spend much of my time in. But a computer user doesn't *have* to use Windows 10, as your example illustrates, and others have mentioned.

The point I was trying to make is that it does become less aggravating to use as sustained exposure gives the user the chance to improve their fluency with the interface. And I'd say that the majority of the complaints about windows 10 is about the interface. The post repeated by xoB addresses a very different aspect of life with win10, the much tighter connection with microsoft on an ongoing basis. you might object to this too, if you noticed.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:34 PM   #10
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I have a feeling 10 was designed for touch screens on mobile and laptops, but not for the increasingly smaller PC market. I found a free program that kept 10 at bay very well. I'm sticking with 7 which works very well and run XP in a virtual so I can use Outlook express for email.

The only problem with 7 is I can't move up past IE 10 which some websites won't accept so I find myself using Chrome more.
Chrome drives me crazy because if I enter a complete valid web address it just sits there and won't move. If I put that same complete address in the Google box it immediately moves it to the address bar and won't move. I have to corrupt the address and put it in the Google bar then it corrects it, moves it to the address bar and goes to the site.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:42 PM   #11
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I'm running 10 on this computer and have for many years in the bizarre hope that I would indeed get used to it and come to like it. In case you were thinking I was just spouting without experience as your post seems to imply.

The more I use it the more I am aggravated by it. And I'm pretty fluent about how to navigate round all the shitty "quirks"/nanny-state-crap. But I shouldn't need to be.

This computer will soon be gone. And Windows X will be Xed with it
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:51 PM   #12
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Moi? You should know by now I don't infer a goddamned thing. I flat out say what I think, and let the chips fall where they may. I, likely most dwellers, know you're smarter than the average bear, and give you credit for that, even if I don't agree.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:49 PM   #13
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Monster said *I* was / might have been implying, not you. You, on the other hand, infer all the time. Imply, not so much.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:02 PM   #14
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Hey, don't be stealing my slings and arrows. The only inferences from me are derived from your assumptions.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:25 PM   #15
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How to turn off ads in Windows 10 File Explorer.
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