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Old 12-14-2008, 08:32 PM   #1111
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hey, Griff....

Steelers Cowboys Superbowl this year!

We need to even the series.
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:47 PM   #1112
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the nfl of all sports is one controlled by money.
the reaon being is that it generates so much of it.

coming week 17, and then into the play-offs, the money out-weighs the sport.

all one needs to do to determine the outcome of these highly wagered games is answer the question 'where is the money placed?'
the money is always taken away.
bet against the masses and you'll win, its as simple as that.

from late december till early febuary is a non-stop free-money affair.
those of you who have held onto your serious cash, now is the time to use that for sure profit.

it starts with the bowl games starting this saturday. then onto the the nfl play-offs.
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:31 PM   #1113
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85% of all betting can be traced to top management. Only ask where top management is betting to see facts. not given is what games an adult will bet.
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:26 AM   #1114
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every year at this time we start running into some serious cash.
its bowl time..............
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eagle bank bowl

wake forest[-3.0] - navy

navy has produced some good defence over these past few weeks, but here they are out-matched.
wake forest would have to stay home to lose this one.

bet on wake forest

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new orleans bowl

southern miss - troy[-4.5]


when i first saw the spread, i thought it was a miss-print.
no match here, easy win for the golden eagles.

bet on souther miss

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champs sports bowl


wisconsin - florida st[-4.5]


there are a lot more games i'd like to have money on, but when they give away gifts like this, you have to limit yourself and take the easy money..... this should be a badgers win.

bet on wisconsin

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alamo bowl


missouri[-13.0] - northwestern

there are some who would assume that missouri would not come to play their best stuff in the alamo bowl as their goals were obviously higher.
the differences are just to big here not to go with the better side.

bet on missouri

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sun bowl

oregon st[-3.0] - pittsburgh


here's another head scratcher...anyone who's been watching knows that it should be at least the other way around.

bet on pittsburgh


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rose bowl

usc[-10.0] - penn state

oh my i like this one.
the rose bowl's not that bad, they could have both done better.
i say they both show up.
penn state can win.

bet on penn state

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cotton bowl

mississippi - texas tech[-5.5]

most of you are gonna have your money riding on tech.
those who've watched mississippi play, know better.

bet on mississippi

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bcs championship

oklahoma - florida[-3.0]

i expected oklahoma to be here last year and win it.
imo, they remain the one team in the nation..... again.

bet on oklahoma

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don't forget to bet on these as they have paid off these past few years.

the best defencive way to bet on these games is to list them by number 1 through 8 and play the following combinations

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123
124
125
126
127
128
134
135
136
137
138
145
146
147
148
156
157
158
167
168
178
234
235
236
237
238
245
246
247
248
256
257
258
267
268
278
345
346
347
348
356
357
358
367
368
378
456
457
458
467
468
478
567
568
578
678

thats 56 bets
we'll be increasing the wagers here, so.......
$190 a bet x 56 = $10.800

3 wins will get you = $1.330
4 wins will get you = $5.320
5 wins will get you $13.330
6 wins will get you $26.660
7 wins will get you $46.550
8 wins will get you $74.480

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another way to bet is to take a base and list it as 1


123
124
125
126
127
128
134
135
136
137
138
145
146
147
148
156
157
158
167
168
178

thats 21 bets
$480 a bet x 21 = $10.080

the base and 2 wins will get you = $3.360
the base and 3 wins will get you = $10.080
the base and 4 wins will get you = $20.160
the base and 5 wins will get you = $33.600
the base and 6 wins will get you = $50.400
the base and 7 wins will get you = $70.560

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another way to bet, is to take 2 bases and list them as 1 and 2

123
124
125
126
127
128

thats 6 bets
$1.700 a bet x 6 = $10.200

two bases and 1 win = $11.900
two bases and 2 wins = $23.800
two bases and 3 wins = $35.700
two bases and 4 wins = $47.600
two bases and 5 wins = $59.500
two bases and 6 wins = $71.400

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Old 12-20-2008, 08:34 PM   #1115
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JIMMY, turn the cowboys game on, and watch it. then try to tell me the Defense is sub par.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:29 PM   #1116
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JIMMY, turn the cowboys game on, and watch it. then try to tell me the Defense is sub par.
one of the weakest offences in the nfl score 33 points against your team...
dallas's defence is below sub-par.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:59 PM   #1117
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Old 12-20-2008, 11:12 PM   #1118
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dude, as i said... its not my fault your team sucks.

hopefully next weeks game dallas cowboys - philadelphia eagles will be for a spot in a wild-card game.
you do hold a superior team to my eagles, but win or lose, the cowboys are gonna get hurt again.... remember last year?

lj, you could always change teams.

i'm more interested in the bowl-games going on.
some heavy cash on the line, already 1 for 1 ...7 to go!!!!
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:02 AM   #1119
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latest results............

eagle bank bowl
wake forest[-3.0] 29-19 navy ........WIN

new orleans bowl
southern miss 30-27 troy[-4.5] .......WIN

so we're going for some heavy duty money.
it continue's with this afternoon's wisconsin's game!!

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champs sports bowl


wisconsin - florida st[-4.5]


there are a lot more games i'd like to have money on, but when they give away gifts like this, you have to limit yourself and take the easy money..... this should be a badgers win.

bet on wisconsin

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alamo bowl


missouri[-13.0] - northwestern

there are some who would assume that missouri would not come to play their best stuff in the alamo bowl as their goals were obviously higher.
the differences are just to big here not to go with the better side.

bet on missouri

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sun bowl

oregon st[-3.0] - pittsburgh


here's another head scratcher...anyone who's been watching knows that it should be at least the other way around.

bet on pittsburgh


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rose bowl

usc[-10.0] - penn state

oh my i like this one.
the rose bowl's not that bad, they could have both done better.
i say they both show up.
penn state can win.

bet on penn state

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cotton bowl

mississippi - texas tech[-5.5]

most of you are gonna have your money riding on tech.
those who've watched mississippi play, know better.

bet on mississippi

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bcs championship

oklahoma - florida[-3.0]

i expected oklahoma to be here last year and win it.
imo, they remain the one team in the nation..... again.

bet on oklahoma

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Old 12-28-2008, 12:03 AM   #1120
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nfl, week 17... its the same kind of case scenario as last year.
bet against the teams that need to win.
whatever you do, don't bet your money where the masses do.

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ny jets[-2.5] vs miami dolphins

now here's a game that you can bet on that has purpose as both teams need to win.
brett leads the nfl all time in interceptions.
and don't tell me that its because he's played more games than anyone else cause thats silly.
this year he outranks all qb's by far with an incredible 19 interceptions.
the jets are under par all over the place.
bill parcels and the dolphins are superior and should make the play-offs against this very weak jets team.

bet on the miami dolphins

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remember..... if you're not gonna bet against the team that needs to win, at least don't bet on them.

free money coming up
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:41 AM   #1121
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nfc

new york giants

is the team capable of repeating?
clearly yes... the giants are easily, the best team in the nfc.
.... but lets not forget the most important factor in this sport....
money.

carolina panthers

the defence has been good for quite some time, although it does have some small holes.
the offence is simply not good enough to make it all the way.

minnesota vikings - philadelphia eagles

i'd say to you straight up that the vikings would win this game, but the vikings simply cannot stop the pass.
with donovan healthy and westbrook coming out of the back to catch, the eagles are as dominating as a passing team can get.
the eagles have the edge.

atlanta falcons - arizona cardinals

most people have yet to truly understand what turner is capable of.
arizona should not be participating in the play-offs.
the one and only thing that can create an upset here is the fact that atlanta's defence is very far under par.
of course atlanta has the edge as they can control the clock.

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afc

tennessee titans

the team is really not that good.
look a little closer at this teams defence.
the numbers in the titans case, do actually lie.
think of what kind of offences this titans defence faced.
twice against the jaguars offence.
twice against the colts who in the 1st one, were without rb addai, or wr's harrison and gonzales. ...its not that hard to cover one man[wayne]
and the texans twice, without the top ranked wr.
other offences they faced were the lions, bears, chiefs, browns and bengals.... you see? the numbers lie big time.
don't believe the hype, the titans are not all that.

pittsburgh steelers

i said it again and again, the ol is the weakest in the game.
the season is over for the steelers.
its not even about ben, we're talking about a group of men[ol], who are simply smaller and weaker than the guys on the other team.
they're hurting and they can't take anymore.
poor guys, they were physically punished for several weeks in a row, and they could simply not protect ben.
and it does not matter who you replace him with, the ol is now, non-existant.
the season is over.

chargers - colts

media is bad, so don't listen.
there is no team in the nfl that holds more superstars in their roster than the chargers, they are elite.
the game is open as the colts are also elite.
whoever wins this game will be true contenders for the superbowl.

ravens - dolphins

another open match-up that should be close all the way to the end.
the team that wins this game will be in the afc final, so don't get all suprised when that happens.
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:19 PM   #1122
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nfl wild card

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arizona cardinals vs atlanta falcons[-2.5]

as i said above, arizona should not be here.
there are 6 teams with the same, or better record than the cardinals who are not in the play-offs.
add the fact that arizona got to play the seashawks, rams and 49ers on 2 occassions each.
my only fear in this game is atlanta's defence.
the falcons rb turner is unstopable.
i will be suprised if arizona makes it past this game.

bet on the atlanta falcons


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san diego chargers vs indianapolis colts[-2,5]


it is more than likely that the chargers win this game.
the colts are not quite as good this year as the past couple years.
am i afraid of manning.... of course.
if there is a team in the afc that can stop the chargers from making the superbowl, its the colts.

bet on the san diego chargers


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miami dolphins vs baltimore ravens[-3.5]

both of these teams are capable of making it a close game in the afc final in a few weeks from now.
i would not be suprised if bill and the dolphins win this game.
nice little 3.5 point pillow as well.

bet on the miami dolphins


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minnesota vikings vs philadelphia eagles[-3.5]

when the vikings fill in some missing pieces at corner-back and safety, they will be top contenders for the superbowl.... until then, they will be beaten by teams with passing games like the eagles have.

bet on the philadelphia eagles


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Old 01-03-2009, 10:28 PM   #1123
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Digest of Rules Main
Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass
  1. Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.
  2. Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.
  3. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).
i think i saw 4 instances where rivers grounded the ball. no shit

add to that the ridiculous spots.......and it seems like the fix is in.

wait....thats 5......as i write this... a flagrant example......


and now a horse shit holding call and a lame facemask.


sigh.....
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:08 PM   #1124
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While that fictional face mask was going on - look at #61 for SD - His hand was clearly INSIDE the face mask of an Indy defender. . . I just wish they would let the friggin teams decide these games. The officiating crew should all publicly apologize and then be fired. The entire unit SUCKED!
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:34 PM   #1125
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lj, last year, the cowboys lost to the superbowl champions giants.
if it made you feel any better, you might want to cheer for my eagles this year
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