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Old 07-30-2016, 09:52 AM   #1
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Politics is the new Religion

Promising two alternate realities, one heaven the other hell, based on whom you worship

True believers hanging on long speeches from on high explaining what they should think

Supporters spreading the good word and writing checks for the collection plate
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:03 AM   #2
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Does that make an abstaining voter a political atheist or agnostic?
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:44 AM   #3
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Does that make an abstaining voter a political atheist or agnostic?
Or, one can be quite spiritual and still dislike Religion, or the official Religions, for what they have done to systems of belief.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:32 AM   #4
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there's not enough information to determine. some abstain because they don't believe, your atheists. henry quirk is a good example we both "know". some believe, yet still abstain because they believe, but know better. Griff's an example of this kind of believer, he believes in the reality of the system, but not in one, true, path.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:41 AM   #5
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Whom you worship is almost always a product of your friends and family, and where you live, and what culture you grew up in.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:46 AM   #6
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Maybe those who abstain are mostly the agnostics and those who mock the system by casting a protest vote (e.g. writing in "Mickey Mouse") are the atheists. Possibly more parallels there.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:49 AM   #7
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I am a believer, for me it was a physical experience. I cannot deny it
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:10 PM   #8
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Seems to me, to be a political atheist is to say 'I don't believe in politics', which is dumb cuz politics is just a kind of human interaction, and humans interacting is demonstrably real.

I like 'heretic' better but that carries (to me) a sense of active rebellion, and I just ain't the time, energy, or interest for that.

Non serviam, as declaration, works, but isn't easy to label.

Indifferent (with a clinched fist)?

Apolitical (but knowing)?

*shrug*
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:01 PM   #9
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Seems to me, to be a political atheist is to say 'I don't believe in politics', which is dumb cuz politics is just a kind of human interaction, and humans interacting is demonstrably real.

I like 'heretic' better but that carries (to me) a sense of active rebellion, and I just ain't the time, energy, or interest for that.

Non serviam, as declaration, works, but isn't easy to label.

Indifferent (with a clinched fist)?

Apolitical (but knowing)?

*shrug*
What is the supreme religion on this planet?

Catholicism, Protestantism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Communism, Agnosticism, Liberal, Conservative, and all the others are just subsets of the one supreme religion: The Cult of the Omnipotent State!

"Infidel" seems to be an appropriate, if negatively charged, label for one who refuses to accept the precepts of any "faith". It literally means, "one without faith", and infidels were actively hunted down and killed in the dark ages (because they tended to shed light on things that the authorities preferred to keep in the dark).

I don't take offense at being called an "infidel" because I know its real meaning. Likewise with a lot of other good words that have developed negative stereotypes over the years.

One such term is "apathetic". It literally means "not pathetic". Now, how can it be better to be "pathetic" than to be "not pathetic"?

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Old 08-25-2016, 03:38 PM   #10
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What is the supreme religion on this planet?
Science. Science explains god's laws better than anything else. Even terrorists worship it 'teachings' - ie big guns and bombs. God did not stop sending disciples after Christ died. We all know them as Einstein, Gandhi, Newton, Mandella, Higgs, Gauss, Bardeen and Brattain.
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:15 PM   #11
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One such term is "apathetic". It literally means "not pathetic". Now, how can it be better to be "pathetic" than to be "not pathetic"?

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Welcome to the cellar, El Veto-Voter!

I'll answer your question. It's better when the correct understanding of the word in your context is used, meaning feeling or passion or motivation. Being apathetic is to be without those qualities. And you don't strike me as apathetic.
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Old 07-30-2016, 02:15 PM   #12
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In the OP scenario of politics is the new religion promising two alternate realities, one heaven the other hell, based on whom you worship, I'll go with the political atheists being the ones who don't worship anyone and demonstrate it by casting protest votes as opposed to the agnostics who don't vote 'cause they don't think they have reach.

Just another way of looking at it.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:03 PM   #13
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New? You're behind, UT.

There are always people that are going to blindly worship at the altar of the donkey or the elephant. Me? I hang with the donkeys, but I have my glasses or contacts on. Fortunately, my state Democratic party seems cool with that.
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Old 07-31-2016, 10:20 AM   #14
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Faith.

Have faith. We will tell you what to believe. Have faith that we are informed and honest.

Westboro Baptist Church also has faith. Do I really want what they have?
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:08 PM   #15
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Speaking as someone to whom WBC is local...I don't think they are offering faith.
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