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03-23-2017, 06:24 PM | #1 | |
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What's killing middle-aged white Americans without a college degree?
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...espair/520473/
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They say the European safety net is what prevents a similar result in Europe, which faces the same globalization issues. To me it's more about the trajectory. The landscape of opportunity we looked out on in our 20s, versus the landscape of crush we now look upon in our middle age. Drinking makes sense. |
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03-23-2017, 07:59 PM | #2 |
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And yet we also hear again and again that a college degree doesn't get you shit anymore, and the country is facing mass shortages of plumbers, electricians, nurses, and all the other skilled trades. I think it's more just that the economy has sucked overall for a good while now, and white men without college degrees have fewer social supports and coping mechanisms than other demographic groups.
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03-23-2017, 08:31 PM | #3 |
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Didn't the majority of college grads (not counting a degree basket weaving and the ilk) who found they couldn't find a job, graduate in the last ten years or so? That would be a younger demographic.
I'm seen a lot of middle aged men who's lives are so constrained, so shallow, they'll contemplate suicide or start binge drinking if their football team doesn't make the playoffs, and losing the Superbowl is a disaster equal to 9-11. Hockey and Basketball too, not so much with baseball.
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03-24-2017, 07:18 AM | #4 |
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It has been brutal to watch and participate in. This economy which doesn't appear to need people has guided a lot of my choices. The house project was my solution to underemployment at that time followed by a move into human service work because you still need people to work with people. I see the people I went to school with and the shock goes beyond recognizing how old we've gotten, it's how a lot of us look decades older than others.
I think this is a big part of the lack of progress in race relations. A segment of white society has a hard time with the concept of white privilege. It feels like the stakes are higher if they are passed over in favor of a minority candidate because the stakes are higher. I still understand that whites are privileged compared to others but it is no guarantee that they will ever get a sniff of success in a broken economy. (I could add a nice rant about our kleptocracy and the safety net here but I need to get on the road.)
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03-24-2017, 07:29 AM | #5 | |
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03-24-2017, 09:30 AM | #6 | |
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03-24-2017, 10:14 AM | #7 |
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Then we can add Apeirophobia to our worries.
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03-25-2017, 05:48 AM | #8 |
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Term limits look more important...
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03-25-2017, 01:57 PM | #10 |
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I used to think if there were term limits they would go in and grab all they could because they couldn't stay. Seems that thinking is wrongly based of the theory the voters would judge their performance and thumbs up or down based on that performance. I can't figure out if times have changed or I was just naive.
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03-25-2017, 02:36 PM | #11 |
To shreds, you say?
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I thought it was stubbornness.
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03-25-2017, 04:06 PM | #12 |
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What's killing middle-aged white Americans without a college degree?
Living.
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03-25-2017, 07:21 PM | #13 |
To shreds, you say?
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The #1 cause of death.
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03-26-2017, 10:18 AM | #14 |
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Life's only certainty.
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03-26-2017, 11:06 AM | #15 |
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but Zombies?
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