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Old 11-22-2018, 10:17 PM   #421
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I've had the feeling, OK, he's gamed the system by making ridiculous claims and enough lies to make his nose grow to the moon.
He figured out how to divide and conquer, played that into huge personal gain.
He's pretty smart.

But I had the thought last night, what if he's not that smart, what if he's actually tweeting and saying what he really believes.
I'm afraid, very afraid.
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Old 11-22-2018, 10:20 PM   #422
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It would look like how most Americans would look if we tweeted similarly.
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:33 AM   #423
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We don't tweet though. We stop, we think, we test it out on the cellar, we realize we're being dumb, and then we throw it in the ash bin. He should have a group of area competent people to talk to... you know, like a cabinet.
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:07 AM   #424
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He's just a fly by the seat of your pants kind of guy and you can do some death defying stunts when you're wearing bespoke pants.

His cabinet is his fly girls.
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:40 AM   #425
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Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it.

And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by.

The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?
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Old 11-23-2018, 10:28 AM   #426
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Raw feed will usually come back to bite you in the ass. Constructive criticism or just criticism(attack)? In print it's sometimes not easy to tell the spirit in which it's given, no matter how carefully you chose your words.
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Old 11-23-2018, 10:49 AM   #427
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Some who give raw feed become successful, others fall by the wayside, the outcome depends on the perceived objective behind it.
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:08 AM   #428
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Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it.

And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by.

The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?
Except his staff have admitted the "rawness" is often faked, tweets written by others on his account with the intent of being inflammatory--they even bragged about putting in intentional typos for authenticity's sake.
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:27 AM   #429
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Then that's exactly the game theory Trump is working by, and being outraged is playing on his game field.

Next level: watch the media with that in mind. They have been trolled. They have lost.
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:47 AM   #430
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Some in the media became conceited and thought they could become activists hiding behind the journalism banner. They bastardized their 1st Amendment protections without being astute enough to realize the same could be done by counter-activists. They got what they bargained for including the collateral damage to their peer group which will have to do a better job of policing their own. If they don't, they'll fall by the wayside in public opinion.
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Old 11-23-2018, 01:34 PM   #431
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The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass.

Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy.

Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:24 PM   #432
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The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass.

Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy.

Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.
The American press is not mandated to lead the nation.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:36 PM   #433
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"The American press is not mandated to lead the nation."

No, the press is mandated to 'report' (sumthn' it hasn't done in a coon's age).
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:06 PM   #434
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C'mon Henry, Trump's a lying motherfucker, over and over and over again.
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:25 PM   #435
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Of course he's a lyin' motherfucker,

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

I didn't hire him to be honest, I hired him to wreck shit.

Mebbe you like the status quo: bully for you.

Me: I want government pared down, leaned out, powered down, and brought under heel.

Trump ain't the end point; he just a goddamned waystation.

He's doin' exactly what I want him to do, so he can lie, cheat, steal, and whore around to his heart's content.
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