HOLY HORSESHIT, BATMAN!

01-03-2002, 02:27 PM

Guess what?

My domain, metastudios.com, was shut down yesterday. My shell access to the server was also disabled. I sent in a trouble ticket, and they responded that my account was disabled. I asked why, and they tell me:

Quote:

Below is the notification that we received from representatives of the MPAA. In order to comply with their request, we were to disable the domain and preserve the content. You will need to contact MPAA@copyright.org to persue the complaint now.

Abuse Response Team

Know why?

I had a fucking file on there named DeCSS.tar.gz. Know what it was? Some software to remove Cascading Style Sheets from HTML web pages. Obviously they didn't examine this software, nor the webpage it was on, which clearly stated

"this software cannot be used to make illegal copies of DVDs".

What a bunch of fucking shitfaces, both the MPAA and the host. THEY REMOVED MY SITE, WITHOUT EVEN ASKING ME FIRST FOR CLARIFICATION, AFTER THE MPAA MADE SHIT UP ABOUT MY SITE. From the MPAA email:

Quote:

We have received information that the above referenced Internet site is providing a circumvention device commonly known as DeCSS. DeCSS is a software utility that decrypts or unscrambles the contents of DVDs (consisting of copyrighted motion pictures) or otherwise circumvents the protection afforded by the Contents Scramble System (CSS) and permits the copying of the DVD contents and/or any portion thereof.

NOT VERY FUCKING GOOD INFORMATION, YOU SHITBAGS.

I am fucking disgusted.

01-03-2002, 09:07 PM

Not an hour after I sent my email to the host, my site was back online. I received 2 emails from CIHost - one stating that they were very sorry for the problem (and that my account had been restored), and the other a copy of the email they sent to the MPAA, which was pretty much <b>scathing</b>. Unfortunately, web access to my work email is down, so I can't post the texts of these emails - I will do so tomorrow, when I get into the office.

I must say, though my initial irritation with CIHost still remains, they seem even more pissed off at the strongarming MPAA and irritated that they fell for it. So I guess that's fair, seeing as I have my shit back and I no longer have anything to worry about from the MPAA as far as metastudios is concerned. Hopefully all is well.

01-03-2002, 09:21 PM

Email from CIHost to me:

Quote:

We sincerely apologize for this case of mistaken software identity.* The
account has been reenabled and we will also be contacting the MPAA
representatives regarding this false accusation.* Again, our apologies for
the error.

Abuse Response Team

Email from CIHost to MPAA, the fuckheads:

Quote:

Upon further investigation, this file is not the "De Content Scrambling
System" software, but rather software the strips Cascading Style Sheets
found at http://www.pigdog.org/decss/.

In closing, is it asking too much to expect an organization as universal and
omnipotent as yours a little more thoroughness and accuracy in its
investigations, instead of making blanket accusations with the added legal
threats couched in easy assumption, but not in fact?* A reply would be most
appreciated, but certainly not expected.

Abuse Response Team

serge · 01-03-2002, 09:37 PM

I've read several exactly same stories (CSS stripping prog.) on slashdot.

I say dump your current host.

WHAT THE FUCK?

Why didn't THEY bother to check it first? Don't fucking pass the buck.. YOU're the service provider.

P.S. Welcome to The Corporate State.

verbatim · 01-03-2002, 09:39 PM

QUICK! DO YOUR AMERICAN RIGHT: SUE. Bastards, they didnt even look into it. I hope someone slams with a lawsuit, thats just being jackasses.

I wonder if you could say that that is terrorism--they were trying to affect your right to be a citizen and to free speech. You could do some damage.

Nic Name · 01-03-2002, 10:01 PM

Would it be too much to suggest that your hosting service give you a month's free credit on your hosting bill in appreciation for your continuing to give them your business after they screwed you over by shutting you down without notice?

You could have just taken your business elsewhere, and left them in their self-righteous ingnorant bliss!

jaguar · 01-04-2002, 03:55 AM

You know - for once i agree, SUE.
bluffing or not this kinda shit stinks bigtime. Personally i keep a large number of mirrors on fre ehsoting iwth decss, obviously renamed and the wording on the pages is obscure, just to make life difficult - its infomation war baby!

01-04-2002, 05:24 AM

Well, as for hosting... they fudged something a long time ago, so I have free hosting for life... so shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

My dad mentioned a lawsuit, saying I could probably collect against the RIAA in punitive damages. There's definitely a possibility, but I'll need to research the matter further. If any of you have ideas (or are lawyers), post 'em here!

Nic Name · 01-04-2002, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic

My dad mentioned a lawsuit, saying I could probably collect against the RIAA in punitive damages. There's definitely a possibility, but I'll need to research the matter further. If any of you have ideas (or are lawyers), post 'em here!

Tortious Interference with contract is the cause of action against the third party, and your weakest element to prove would probably be actual damages. You must have suffered some actual damages, however small, for there to be a cause of action. If the cause of action for Tortious Interference is proved, the court may award punitive damages in addition to the actual damages, if the court considers that the actual damages to the plaintiff would not be sufficient deterent to the defendant's egregious actions.

I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. Seek independent legal counsel. The above is provided for your entertainment only.

russotto · 01-04-2002, 01:31 PM

I'm putting a DeCSS on my pond account real soon now.

01-04-2002, 01:58 PM

De-Content Scrambling System or De-Cascading Style Sheets?

juju · 01-04-2002, 02:24 PM

There's not much point in mirroring DeCSS anymore. Mirror the plugins for the appropriate Linux DVD players instead.

01-04-2002, 02:53 PM

'Cept the principle of it, of course. That being to stand in defiance of a silly organization that has bought a ill-enforced "ban" on a piece of software that doesn't do anything illegal, save for the unconstitutional law that it kinda maybe breaks.

jaguar · 01-04-2002, 04:49 PM

ill rig it up
just got a box as syney uni that can auto-update the contents of about 20 mirrors on free servers. I tunnel into that and bounce it though 2 boxes that i know the admins for - no logs.

russotto · 01-04-2002, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dhamsaic
'Cept the principle of it, of course. That being to stand in defiance of a silly organization that has bought a ill-enforced "ban" on a piece of software that doesn't do anything illegal, save for the unconstitutional law that it kinda maybe breaks.

It's pigdog's DeCSS which is up. If I want to flout the DMCA publicly and for real, I've got some stuff of my own I'll put up. In the mean time, I'll wait for the outcome of the court cases (which are unfortunately mostly currently decided for RIAA).

01-03-2002, 09:37 PM	#4
serge * Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 85	I've read several exactly same stories (CSS stripping prog.) on slashdot. I say dump your current host. WHAT THE FUCK? Why didn't THEY bother to check it first? Don't fucking pass the buck.. YOU're the service provider. P.S. Welcome to The Corporate State. Last edited by serge; 01-03-2002 at 09:49 PM.

01-03-2002, 09:39 PM	#5
verbatim Vice-President of Resentment Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pennsultucky Posts: 199	QUICK! DO YOUR AMERICAN RIGHT: SUE. Bastards, they didnt even look into it. I hope someone slams with a lawsuit, thats just being jackasses. I wonder if you could say that that is terrorism--they were trying to affect your right to be a citizen and to free speech. You could do some damage. __________________ <-- I'm with stupid

01-04-2002, 03:55 AM	#7
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	You know - for once i agree, SUE. bluffing or not this kinda shit stinks bigtime. Personally i keep a large number of mirrors on fre ehsoting iwth decss, obviously renamed and the wording on the pages is obscure, just to make life difficult - its infomation war baby! __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

01-04-2002, 04:49 PM	#14
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	ill rig it up just got a box as syney uni that can auto-update the contents of about 20 mirrors on free servers. I tunnel into that and bounce it though 2 boxes that i know the admins for - no logs. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

01-03-2002, 09:07 PM	#2
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Not an hour after I sent my email to the host, my site was back online. I received 2 emails from CIHost - one stating that they were very sorry for the problem (and that my account had been restored), and the other a copy of the email they sent to the MPAA, which was pretty much <b>scathing</b>. Unfortunately, web access to my work email is down, so I can't post the texts of these emails - I will do so tomorrow, when I get into the office. I must say, though my initial irritation with CIHost still remains, they seem even more pissed off at the strongarming MPAA and irritated that they fell for it. So I guess that's fair, seeing as I have my shit back and I no longer have anything to worry about from the MPAA as far as metastudios is concerned. Hopefully all is well.

01-03-2002, 10:01 PM	#6
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Would it be too much to suggest that your hosting service give you a month's free credit on your hosting bill in appreciation for your continuing to give them your business after they screwed you over by shutting you down without notice? You could have just taken your business elsewhere, and left them in their self-righteous ingnorant bliss!

01-04-2002, 05:24 AM	#8
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Well, as for hosting... they fudged something a long time ago, so I have free hosting for life... so shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. My dad mentioned a lawsuit, saying I could probably collect against the RIAA in punitive damages. There's definitely a possibility, but I'll need to research the matter further. If any of you have ideas (or are lawyers), post 'em here!

01-04-2002, 01:31 PM	#10
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	I'm putting a DeCSS on my pond account real soon now.

01-04-2002, 01:58 PM	#11
dave Guest Posts: n/a	De-Content Scrambling System or De-Cascading Style Sheets?

01-04-2002, 02:24 PM	#12
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	There's not much point in mirroring DeCSS anymore. Mirror the plugins for the appropriate Linux DVD players instead.

01-04-2002, 02:53 PM	#13
dave Guest Posts: n/a	'Cept the principle of it, of course. That being to stand in defiance of a silly organization that has bought a ill-enforced "ban" on a piece of software that doesn't do anything illegal, save for the unconstitutional law that it kinda maybe breaks.

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