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Old 06-14-2017, 12:28 AM   #1
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Grenfell Blaze

So, apparently a 24 story apartment building in the UK has been burning like a motherfucking inferno for a while now, entirely engulfed in flame, and yet, and yet, it hasn't completely collapsed onto its own footprint in the manner of a controlled demolition.

How truly bizarre that the laws of physics only apply in the UK.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:09 AM   #2
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:41 AM   #3
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After reading Clodfobble's MGM Grand story over on Damn Interesting, I am very curious to find out WTF happened in this UK apartment fire. No sprinklers? Something else? How can this happen?
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:51 AM   #4
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Helluva scene greeted me this morning:

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Old 06-14-2017, 07:53 AM   #5
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So, apparently a 24 story apartment building in the UK has been burning like a motherfucking inferno for a while now, entirely engulfed in flame, and yet, and yet, it hasn't completely collapsed onto its own footprint in the manner of a controlled demolition.

How truly bizarre that the laws of physics only apply in the UK.
Rly?
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:46 AM   #6
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It's shocking because of how rare it is.

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After reading Clodfobble's MGM Grand story over on Damn Interesting, I am very curious to find out WTF happened
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:26 AM   #7
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Musta been built by immigrants.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:52 AM   #8
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It's shocking because of how rare it is.
Shocking are known facts. That building was not required to have sprinklers. Compare the building to firemen's water streams.

Philadelphia has a similar problem in a 30 some story building adjacent to City Hall. Due to no sprinklers, that fire simply marched up the floors. Three firemen died in that one. One watchman almost died when he took the elevator up to discover why a fire alarm (that he kept resetting) was repeatedly going off.

To fight that fire, firemen actually put hoses into windows of adjacent buildings to get water onto fire.

One difference. The Philadelphia building was built by domestics for domestics. That London building was built by domestics knowing it would also house immigrants. A comment only necessary due to blunt contempt one has for immigrants.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:41 AM   #9
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So, TW, what you are telling us is that London has different/separate building codes for buildings which are intended for immigrants?

Where can the rest of us find this damning information?

Now, go ahead, repeat your post 22 times.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:42 AM   #10
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Musta been built by immigrants.
This, btw, was a pathetic attempt at sarcastic humor.

That shit TW posted was just pathetic.

I sincerely apologize, to The Cellar, and to the world, if my post brought out The TW.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:56 AM   #11
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It's shocking because of how rare it is.
On NPR, an (ex fireman) MP mentioned that there have been a few worldwide (ie, still rare, but potentially a pattern), where one factor was counterfeit materials claiming to be fire resistant, so even if a builder thought they were following code, they weren't. He was particularly concerned with the 'cladding', ie the outward-facing layer of the building, which burned much faster than it ought to.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:26 PM   #12
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Rly?
Being sarcastic about the fantasy that a small, smoky fire that went out fairly quickly somehow managed to cause the buildings at WTC to completely pancake in about six seconds or close to 32f/s^2.

A one in several hijillion squintillion to one chance of it happening twice in the same universe.

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Old 06-14-2017, 04:33 PM   #13
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Yeah.... no.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:35 PM   #14
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Yeah.... no.
Right? That threw me a little too.
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