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Old 05-07-2007, 09:56 AM   #1
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Angry I hate...

.......calculus. I wish it would die and take its integrals, antiderivatives, exponential growth and all that math shit and bite it. It is fucking up my grades in school. Maybe my high school teachers taught math better, maybe my college TA can't teach for shit but I loathe calculus. Got a 57 and 54 on my first 2 exams, tomorrow is my final exam. In high school I got As in every math class, this is so new to me, fucking up mathematics. I hope I can pass the class, but fuck what are the chances.
Fuck you, calculus.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:02 AM   #2
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Seconded. Though, to be honest, I've never made it that far. I'm imaging the torture calculus must be relative to the torture fairly simple mathematics poses for me personally.

Who says Newton was so great, huh? Damn his brilliant hide!
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:04 AM   #3
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Also, I'm taking a Philosophy of Physical Science test at 1:3 today. Got a 76% on my first one which pissed me off. You would think a class that talks about the Universe would be fun, but NOooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It's pure hell.

I feel for you, dude. Hang in there. Think of Einstein!
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:17 AM   #4
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Heh, I liked calculus, but I still do basic arithmetic by counting in my head.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:02 PM   #5
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Which text are you using, fresh? Thomas?

Can you be a bit more specific as to what's bothering you?
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:38 PM   #6
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I hated calculus too. I had to work with a tutor to get through it, but it helped a lot.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:40 PM   #7
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I hated all the math I had until calculus. Calculus, I loved that shit. Discrete math is pretty good too.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:49 PM   #8
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This is why Calculus should be taught in high schools. Some find it a very natural thing, but for those who don't it can be practically opaque and the high school classroom is by far the best place to get the more personalized attention you need for subjects of this sort.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:05 PM   #9
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I don't know if that helps necessarily...I took calculus in high school, but I don't feel like our class was offered much personal attention, unfortunately. Our teacher knew his stuff in front of the group, but he wasn't very good with the one-on-one thing.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:25 PM   #10
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I don't use a book. We use this program called Mathematica (I never want to hear it's name again) which has files and tutorials in it that teaches us. It is like a language such as BASIC but for math. Every other week there is one day dedicated to the TA lecturing about what we should have taught ourselves for the last week and a half. The rest of the days (its 50 minutes every day) we spend sitting in the computer lab learning this shit on our own and making programs utilizing the calculus we are learning. I hate it, because I can't teach myself this stuff, I have no idea where this shit is derived from.

The general consensus at the University of Illinois is that math is WAYYYYY too hard, my brother's friend who is a Civil Engineer (need math for that?) took Calculus 2 at U of I and got a C. He decided to take the rest of his math courses at our community college back home, because well, U of I sucks at teaching math.

And it's too late for me to tell you my math problems, the exam is tomorrow. But then calculus will be out of my life forever. JUST LIKE CHEMISTRY!!!

Thanks for the support too.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:33 PM   #11
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I took AP Calculus in high school, but didn't take the test to try to get the credits and skip it in college. That was a bonehead move. Mostly I was afraid I would fail the test because I got Cs in it during the year, and didn't have a strong understanding of it.

So I took it a second time in college my Freshman year. I had overconfidence, since I had passed it in high school, so I didn't do the homework. Almost failed that class. The prof gave me a D for the course, and it was totally a gift that she passed me.

I understood a lot of the concepts, but had a hard time doing the equations and problems. It was hard. I should have done the homework and studied in college.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:40 PM   #12
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That sounds like an awful style of teaching, fresh
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:40 PM   #13
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I got a 5 on the Calc BC exam, but had too little confidence, and only took college credit for AB.

Big mistake. Retaking the BC stuff was t... e... d... i... o... u... s...



And yes, that Mathematica-based course sounds awful. Mathematica is great, but it's a calculator, not a teacher.
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:30 PM   #14
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Ugh. Math.

Personally, my brain shut down before I ever got to calculus. The only practical math I learned was T minus forty-five minutes and counting . . .
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:40 PM   #15
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The drawing pictures part of calculus is what made the concepts stick in my head. After a while I started looking at curves in real life in a much different way. I can't imagine trying to learn calculus by writing programs. However calculus improved my programming skills...
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